A Republic If You Can Keep It

vanity ^ | 12/12/2005 | Hopeful Patriot

[ForGod'sSake]

For now? Not much of a pledge then? FGS, I know you know better than that.

"The Pledge" was to defend our Constitution at at all costs. If the "plan", once presented, doesn't appear a viable solution, I'm of course, out. Now, as I read it, the "plan" has a major contingency, that is, a Limbaugh be recruited to the effort. The fact they have expressed little/no interest in the "plan" concerns me, but it's not an overriding concern. THEIR, participation may be contingent on a committed following also. Chicken and egg?

Thanks for your input.

FGS

[ForGod'sSake]

Feh!

[Landru]

What have you gotten entangled in here, old friend?
Don't you know it's a full moon. ;^)

Lots of *passion* on both sides, *lots*.
That passion's the only 24k aspect about the whole thing certifiably "American". {g}

But listen: people have a right to be suspicious *not* of the spirit of this -- or any other -- "plan" as they see fit.
But they have a duty to be wary of the source(s).

This comes -- after all -- from an unknown entity.
Could fall under, "The last refuge of a scoundrel is patriotism", huh.
Can't help it my friend, don't hate me.
The Liberal-Socialists did this to me.

Well, gotta go.

...back to stoking my own flame war. ;^)

[The Raven]

Additional Reading --

"A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles"

-Thomas Sowell

[ForGod'sSake]

But they have a duty to be wary of the source(s).

Agreed, but like I asked another Freeper, the question of whether one is willing to defend our Constitution regardless of who asks should yield the same answer.

Thanks for the response; gotta run myself.

FGS

[Landru]

"Agreed, but like I asked another Freeper, the question of whether one is willing to defend our Constitution regardless of who asks should yield the same answer."

While what you say is true?
Expecting some people to be honest is really asking a lot, too.
It's 2005, y'know.

In a *perfect* world yea, maybe.

...but not here.

[Purdue Pete]

You've probably already seen this and all the links, but, just in case you haven't....Ping!!

[Burf]

"When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
Something they couldn't do before the imposition of the income tax.

IMO the passing of the 17th Amendment (direct election of Senators IIRC) was the start of the downfall. Candidates could run on, as they do now, on what the government is gonna "give" them or what voters are entitled to receive.

[Burf]

"Where is the money going to come from to pick up an additional 1.5 Trillion dollars a year when the boomers retire"
Add to the Soc Sec money that has been spent in the general fund all the unfunded pensions the government is picking up such as Northwest and Delta Airlines and the UAW pensions and the crap is really gonna hit the fan.

[HopefulPatriot]

"..just from lurking on these threads, I've managed to glean that the plan involves Rush Limbaugh right now and a different form of currency somewhere down the road. Now, as far as I'm concerned, that's all any patriot worth his salt should need to hear before leaping to his feet and shouting "I'm in!"

Very astute gleaning and very well said. Merry Christmas HC.

[Sam Cree]

"IMO the passing of the 17th Amendment (direct election of Senators IIRC) was the start of the downfall."

I agree. It was a step towards pure democracy, generally a poor idea.

[truth_seeker]

"I do think we need a well spoken leader. A charismatic fellow who can get everyday Americans on board. We need high school graduates to be able to understand..."

I say we need a man on a white horse.

He will need the skill to persuade folks to be happy about being pushed off the nipple, so to speak.

A personality, a man of a few carefully chosen words, plus action and results.

Not exactly compatible with having everybody vote.

re the article: All this longwinded runup for some "plan" is not effective.

[HopefulPatriot]

"The character of the would-be leader is of great importance."

On the contrary, it is the character of the people that matters. The country has survived any number of absolutely awful leaders. If you haven't already, please read Bastiat's The Law.

I have linked to preface by Walter Williams. The "Chapter One" tab will take you to the beginning. When you understand his conclusions regarding the unimportance of universal sufferage, you will understand what a properly restrained government is.

"..the real genius of Americans is for compromise..

I could not disagree more. If you know what is right, compromise is a step in the wrong direction. Acting when you don't know what to do, is foolish. Compromising when you don't know what to do is no wiser. I suggest you think carefully about the parable of the Russian peasant in our first article. Almost without exception, everything that Democrats believe is wrong. Every compromise with Democrats has brought the country that much closer to the brink.

I may have more to add, but my wife has some duties to which need my attention. In the mean time, see if you can picture what the US would have been like, if Lincoln had not fought the Civil War. Or if Wilson or FDR had not been elected.

[nopardons]

Your projection complex is getting worse; time for you to see a doctor ASAP, newbie.

[nopardons]

1) There is NO plan, except that it appears that there is one person or a small group of people, who are, at some future point in time, going to have their own currency, which he/they want the rest of us to use ( after we give them all of that "nasty" fiat money that the government prints and which they think is useless ) in lieu of actual, legal tender.

2) It isn't even the poster to whom you have been responding "plan"; he's but a loud mouthed, insult hurling dupe.

3) Perhaps, if everyone but the KOOKS ignore these threads, they'll die out. :-)

[nopardons]

ROTFLMSO!

[ForGod'sSake]

Evening nOOb. Still frantically flailing the air I see. Don't your arms ever get tired?

[nopardons]

I've been here longer than you have, snookums. :-)

I have a really lovely, historic bridge to sell you; but all I need to do is to get Rush to tell you how great it is first. ;^)

[Vision]

Merry Christmas

[ForGod'sSake]

I've been here longer than you have, snookums.

You wish sunshine! In any case nOOb, what posible difference could it make.

Prepare a prospectus on the bridge offering for me will ya. Sounds interesting. You will take a check won't you?

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