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Castro the 'Lennonist' (Castro unveils John Lennon Statue in Havana)
BBC News ^ | Saturday, 9 December, 2000

Posted on 12/09/2005 1:24:34 PM PST by F14 Pilot

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To: John Lenin


21 posted on 12/09/2005 1:41:41 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Soul_of_Chogokin
"the tenets of our Cuban revolution match the beliefs of John Lennon".

You say you want a revolution,
Well, you know
We all want to change the world

...but when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

22 posted on 12/09/2005 1:43:12 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: F14 Pilot
I guess Castro got what he paid for when he bought and warehoused most john lennon solo records.
23 posted on 12/09/2005 1:43:42 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: F14 Pilot

They should put a statue of Groucho Marks on the other side of the bench.


24 posted on 12/09/2005 1:44:34 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Lennon said before he died that was not really political or revolutionary despite his music, wish I could find the quote but it was something to that effect. He was a liberal as most young people are and definitely not into religion but I see no evidence he was a communist. Castro is only trying to grab onto something that might legitimize him in some way, which will never happen.


25 posted on 12/09/2005 1:46:38 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: F14 Pilot
This has about as much historical significance as if Robert Mugabe unveiled a statue of Bobby Sherman!
And why not?!


26 posted on 12/09/2005 1:46:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: F14 Pilot

" Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world..."




Imagine all the Socialists... dead of old age and forgotten.


27 posted on 12/09/2005 1:47:47 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I wish someone could find the follow up story about this statue. It turns out that people kept stealing his glasses!


28 posted on 12/09/2005 1:52:57 PM PST by FreeManWhoCan (---an American with Cuban genes in Miami.............)
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To: F14 Pilot

Can anyone tell me what "demons" he had (other than Yoko, I mean) or how he "suffered" because of his vague "opposition" to the war? He moved to the U.S. at the peak of the war to avoid paying absurd UK taxes, lived at a luxurious address, and was able to avoid working by virtue of his real estate investments. How does any of this relate to Cuban "ideals"?


29 posted on 12/09/2005 1:53:39 PM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: FreeManWhoCan

"It turns out that people kept stealing his glasses!"

I bet they would take his shoes if they could find a blow-torch!


32 posted on 12/09/2005 1:54:51 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: F14 Pilot

I think Escobar had a statue of John Lennon too.


33 posted on 12/09/2005 1:56:36 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: F14 Pilot


Mr Castro said: "I am a dreamer who has seen some of his dreams become reality."

34 posted on 12/09/2005 1:56:52 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: Bavarian Leprechaun
Posted on "Best of the Web" yesterday, OpinionJournal.com (I have no idea whether this guy is right about Lennon, but it's a different take than the kneejerk efforts to paint Lennon as a Marxist/God-hater) --

Growing up, we never paid that much attention to John Lennon; our taste ran more to the Stones than to the Beatles. But an insightful essay by a blogger called "The Solid Surfer" caught our attention:

Lennon detested hypocrisy and always remained on the search for the "next big thing." Given this, I doubt he would have stagnated politically like so many of his leftwing brethren; rather, I believe he would have reversed course entirely a la Michael Medved, David Horowitz, and other liberals-turned-conservatives. . . .

Clearly, Lennon was no career leftwing activist; rather, it was a particular phase in his highly varied and fascinating life, and as he grew older, he certainly appeared to grow more conservative in his cultural and family outlook. At the same time, he always railed against establishment stagnancy, and today, it is the Democrats, particularly those on the far left, who have largely assumed this characteristic. I believe John would have continued these personal trends, and were he alive today, would with sharp moral clarity support America's efforts to achieve freedom around the world. Assuming he would have obtained U.S. citizenship (he was on track, having been granted permanent residency status), I feel he would have become a card-carrying Republican and voted for President Bush in the 2004 election.

Sad to say, Lennon was murdered 25 years ago today, so he didn't have a chance to complete the journey.

35 posted on 12/09/2005 2:02:31 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Bavarian Leprechaun

I'll join you there *comrad*. :-)


37 posted on 12/09/2005 2:16:01 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Soul_of_Chogokin

[Lennon never visited Cuba. But according to Francisco Lopez Sacha, head of Cuba's national writers' association, "the tenets of our Cuban revolution match the beliefs of John Lennon".]


This is a classic example of the fallacy of "authority approval". You take a person who has some exalted status and claim that they support your pet theory. Castro now says "The Great John Lennon supported communism." Big deal. John Lennon was a gifted and accomplished musician and a member of a great rock band, not an expert on government theory.

Other common examples of this faulty logic include claiming support from:

Einstein for Socialism
Einstein for Moral Relativism
Darwin for Nazism
Darwin for Capitalism
Darwin for Communism


38 posted on 12/09/2005 2:28:57 PM PST by spinestein (All journalists today are paid advocates for someone's agenda.)
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To: ncountylee

As well as a few signs that say P freely. Call it a freedom memorial park.


39 posted on 12/09/2005 8:04:36 PM PST by kylaka
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