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The New Underground Railroad,Thousands of women come to New York each year for late-term abortions.
New York Magazine ^ | 12.12.05 | Debbie Nathan

Posted on 12/09/2005 11:30:52 AM PST by Coleus

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Most Haven hosts are white, Jewish, well schooled, and political. >>

and what they are doing is facilitating the killing of babies from Black and Hispanic mothers, sounds like eugenics, the Negro project and black genocide to me.  The article also points out that the mother's ages aren't checked, presumably many are younger than 18 and are as guilty as Planned Parenthood in covering up statutory rape.

And if you notice, the mothers aren't appreciative of what these evil "so-called altruistic" hosts are doing.  They want to take the cab than the subway,  don't like the CD's or the food the host provides and they would rather dance the night away than stay in the host's home.  Once the baby is butchered the hosts no longer have anything to do with the mother, they're off back to Philadelphia to do their own thing.  Both groups are self centered with the one goal-- killing a baby.  On the one hand you have the rich, white women, throwbacks from the 60's who were part of the "me generation" who embraced Marxist/Enviro/Radical feminism and on the other, the pregnant poor, minority Christian and Catholic Christian women who were careless in the first place in getting pregnant, let the baby grow to term and are now looking at every circuitous route to get around the law to kill her baby so she could get on with her life and probably get pregnant again.

The pro-life activist, called the birdlike lady, needs help out there and should be commended for what she is doing.

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The Ugly & Hidden Truth About Partial Birth Abortion

and don't think the ban on Partial Birth Abortion actually banned Partial Birth Abortion, It did NOT:

Sec. 1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited

(b) As used in this section--
  (1) the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which--
      (A) the person performing the abortion deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus; and
      (B) performs the overt act, other than completion of delivery, that kills the partially delivered living fetus; and

In (1) (a) above, the law applies only if the entire head or the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother.   Given this narrow definition, as a physician, it is clear that one could leave part of the head in the body of the mother (including the vulva tissue) or, if breech, it would be important not to pull the body out beyond the umbilicus before slaughtering the baby.  What the effect may be is to truly jeopardize the health of the mother as an unscrupulous abortionist will be doing more manipulation with possible additional internal trauma to the mother in order to get at the base of the baby's skull.

Both of these bills allow a "doctor" to kill a child during the very process of birth until, "in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother." Or "in the case of breech presentation", the child should be killed before "any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother". (Actual text of S.3 and HR 760 in quotes)

That is not a ban. Those are targeting coordinates, plain and simple. The abortionists may be cunning, but they are certainly not stupid. This will not even slow them down.

A law that only protects a child in the last ten seconds of a nine-month pregnancy is a total fraud. It is hard to imagine how anyone could even write a law that would provide fewer restrictions on the legal killing of a human being. As such, it is highly unlikely that even one single child will be saved using the language of this "ban."

Does any one care to read the text of the Fake Partial birth abortion bill Bush signed. Read it and you will see that it does not ban the PB abortion but rather changes how it is done.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:s.00003:
`(1) the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in which the person performing the abortion--

`(A) deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother, for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus

1 posted on 12/09/2005 11:30:53 AM PST by Coleus
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


2 posted on 12/09/2005 11:33:22 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Calling Dr. Dean! Calling Dr. Dean!


3 posted on 12/09/2005 11:33:25 AM PST by TexasCajun
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What a horrible inversion of the original intent of the Underground Railroad. That was formed to save lives; this was invented to destroy them.


4 posted on 12/09/2005 11:35:29 AM PST by twigs
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Sick killers, advocating a new holocaust.


5 posted on 12/09/2005 11:35:49 AM PST by x5452
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Why doesn't the Senator from new york, Hillary Rotten, do something about this since she made it a personal crusade to reduce the amounts of abortion?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1355163/posts
6 posted on 12/09/2005 11:38:29 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: twigs
What a horrible inversion of the original intent of the Underground Railroad. That was formed to save lives; this was invented to destroy them.

Thank you twigs. My exact thoughts.

7 posted on 12/09/2005 11:39:15 AM PST by A message
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What a hearwarming Christmas story to hear about these wonderful, caring woman who reach out to help those in need. Ahhh, nothing like a little holiday cheer to lift ones spirits. Sarcasm off!!!


8 posted on 12/09/2005 11:41:57 AM PST by marlon
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what business is it of yours

Ah yes, this is precisely how young Latin women talk.

Just the other day I was yelled at by one because I offered my subway seat to an elderly woman who was further away on the train from my seat than she was.

She shouted "That is decidedly not cricket, pendejo!"

I said: "Oh, you think you should get the seat instead of this lady?"

She replied: "Quite."

On a more serious note, in a truly civilized America the members of Haven would be rounded up, tried in court, convicted of murder, and hung.

9 posted on 12/09/2005 11:44:05 AM PST by wideawake
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The "volunteer" in the photo looks exactly like the grim angel of death that she is.

“The last woman I hosted showed me her sonogram,” says Jennifer, a 26-year-old host who lives in Carroll Gardens. “Then she pointed out that the fetus was a boy. God! I didn’t know what to say.”

Jennifer didn't know what to say because her position on "choice" is untenable.

10 posted on 12/09/2005 11:44:08 AM PST by fullchroma
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Thanks for that succinct post.

An organization that specializes in murdering black people from the South comparing itself to the Underground Railroad.

Shameless.

11 posted on 12/09/2005 11:45:56 AM PST by wideawake
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being (more than once) in a similar fix

I guess she went to a private school and missed sex ed.

12 posted on 12/09/2005 11:47:49 AM PST by razorback-bert
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no reporting of the 10 yr old child, was she brought by her loving MOM, hogwash I do not believe it; they will burn in hell if they allow minors that young to be victimized and not reported to the authorities


13 posted on 12/09/2005 11:48:39 AM PST by dubyawhoiluv
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These folks need to be reminded of their pals in their own state who are complaining of guns being bought in one state, and brought to their oppressive state.


14 posted on 12/09/2005 11:53:34 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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It sounds to me as though New Yorkers kill more Americans in one year than have been killed by the "insurgents" in Iraq since the beginning of the war. I wonder why the Liberal MSM isn't trumpeting and rejoicing over the killing of these babies as much as they do the deaths of military people in Iraq. Or maybe they are in this article.


15 posted on 12/09/2005 11:54:14 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's no coincidence that the Democrat mascot is a jackass.)
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Butchers & Murderers.


16 posted on 12/09/2005 11:54:52 AM PST by tomahawk
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Nice lady with such a civilised living room:

Nice group of civilised gentlemen:

Loving family man:

I am always struck by the banality of evil.

17 posted on 12/09/2005 12:00:15 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I think what she was really trying to say about being in that fix more than once was, "I'm a slut who couldn't keep my legs together, and even after having one abortion, I was too stupid or too lazy to take a pill every day, so I figured, heck, I'll just kill more children! Because in my fantasyland, actions don't have consequences! WHEE!"

She's a stupid cow, and so are the other women who dare to compare what they're doing to the Underground Railroad.


18 posted on 12/09/2005 12:01:04 PM PST by cammie
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To: twigs
What a horrible inversion of the original intent of the Underground Railroad. That was formed to save lives; this was invented to destroy them

Yeah- it takes some twisting to equate the two doesn't it ?

19 posted on 12/09/2005 12:11:49 PM PST by Red Boots
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I know I shouldn't laugh, but the thought of Katha Pollitt buying People for her "regular folks" houseguests and then suffering an attack of liberal guilt for being condescending is priceless. Such a finely-tuned conscience, but no pangs at all over abortions performed at 24 weeks!


20 posted on 12/09/2005 12:19:36 PM PST by joylyn
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