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Father's bid to have son returned is stymied (VAWA at work)
Kennebeck Journal ^ | December 08, 2005 | DOUG HARLOW

Posted on 12/09/2005 7:40:49 AM PST by Fido969

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A spectacular travesty is occurring in Elizabethtown, KY.

The judge in this case is REQUIRED to follow the Maine custody determination, by virtue of the Uniform Custody rules adopted by every state.

The father has demonstrated that he is innocent of the charges made by his wife - by virtue of taking (and I would assume) passing the drug test (she accused him of smoking pot and taking heroin) and accounting for his actions when he supposedly assaulted her.

The PD should have arrested her for "false swearing" related to the bogus protection-from-abuse order, and the judge should have followed the law.

But courts no longer deliver the law. Judges nowadays are incapable from deviating from the narrow political agenda foisted upon them by the liberals.

This man's is now in the middle of his worst nightmare, and soon his sense of fairness, justice and reality itself will be torn asunder.

Him now - who's next?

Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.

1 posted on 12/09/2005 7:40:51 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969

A 47yr old has a son by a 21 yr old woman. What's wrong with this picture?


2 posted on 12/09/2005 7:44:59 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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And what has that got to do with anything? What's your point? Just because of an age difference, the man is somehow "guilty" of something?


3 posted on 12/09/2005 7:56:22 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: lovecraft

Happens everday in Hollyweird and no outcry about it.


4 posted on 12/09/2005 7:59:01 AM PST by maeng
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To: maeng

Yea, let's go take Hugh Heffner's kids away from him.


5 posted on 12/09/2005 8:01:13 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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A 47yr old has a son by a 21 yr old woman. What's wrong with this picture?

Hmmm... that's why I got a vasectomy.

I would WELCOME scrutinization of this case, if this is a bad man, then let's find out.

My sense is that this is a case of gross judicial abuse, though. This guy is getting shunted out of the way - told to get a lawyer who will likely stall and stall until he has no rights left. I have seen that play out SO MANY times I could puke.

I saw shine a light on this - what wrong with the judge? What's wrong with the cops? What is wrong with the local Domestic Violence group?

Look - how do you think the court system got as screwed up as it is, today? This is not "just" a nasty family case. This is not "just" a Father's Rights case.

I suspect that the people involved in this case in Kentucky are slugs that work best in the dark. Start shining a light around this case, and you will see slimy ugliness indeed.

6 posted on 12/09/2005 8:01:16 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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Just because of an age difference, the man is somehow "guilty" of something?

Nope, not at all. But when you're pushing 50, and you knock up a know nothing 20 yr old, well, "you get what you pay for."

7 posted on 12/09/2005 8:09:56 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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"A 47yr old has a son by a 21 yr old woman. What's wrong with this picture?"

I dunno - tell me, what IS wrong with this picture. Please explain yourself.

8 posted on 12/09/2005 8:13:27 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: Al Gator

Only one of many, many in Hollyweird.


10 posted on 12/09/2005 8:16:46 AM PST by maeng
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To: jackibutterfly

Well, considering the trouble the old boy is going through, I'd advise better judgement in picking his sex partners.


11 posted on 12/09/2005 8:19:27 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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Well, a lot of this traces back to the 3 billion dollar VAWA program that Clintoon instituted for his radical feminist pals. That is a lot of money, and it is going to a small group of extremists who have used it to make a significant impact on the courts, police and public perception.

Secondly, it falls neatly into he "victimhood" culture, where it is good to be a victim, everyone wants to be a victim, and if you're not a victim then there is something wrong with you. I'd guess that when the woman lost the custody case her mind started reeling into victimhood mode - but who knows.

I say let's find out - and let's find out NOW before this kid becomes too damaged by being caught in the middle of this process.

12 posted on 12/09/2005 8:20:22 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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If she illegally took the baby across state lines, could the FBI be brought into case? Could a federal judge over-rule the local judge?


13 posted on 12/09/2005 8:24:05 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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I agree with you Fido, there is a lot more to be learned by this case. And I'm a huge supporter of father's rights.

I never suggested the father was guilty of anything but bad judgement in picking a sex partner less than half his age.

I know it's legal, but I still don't think it's smart. Call me old fashioned.

14 posted on 12/09/2005 8:28:45 AM PST by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: lovecraft
That's a patently sexist response and displays the mindset that got us to this point.

So when is it that age differences trump civil rights?

I guess you have some convoluted answer.

Would the judge do this to a Woody Allen? I think not. Poor judgment is not the domain of either gender. But the MHB* idea that men should be held accountable for it and women not is sickening. *male hating b*tches
15 posted on 12/09/2005 8:34:50 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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Well, true, and I don't think it's so much picking a young partner, if both are competant and of legal age - but it's getting her pregnant. God bless them and the kid, but think about what you are doing, for goodness sake.

This is something every single guy who can't keep his pants zipped should be thinking about.


16 posted on 12/09/2005 8:39:22 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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If it was my child and overcame the urge to kill all those people keeping my son away from, I would see a lawsuit over improper judicial conduct, slander, and anything else that a good lawyer could make stick.

No person is a better parent than other due to their sex. To assume so is liable slander and only a lawsuit will fix the issue.


17 posted on 12/09/2005 8:46:58 AM PST by thebaron512
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To: savedbygrace

It's complicated - in most cases the UCCJA is the rule which is a carbon-copy law adopted by all 50 states which recognizes which state has jurisdiction, and requires judges to defer to that state. In this case the jurisdiction is Maine, and Kentucy is required to give "full faith and credit" to the Maine custody determination.

Once custody has been determined, however, and that has been done here, the custodial parent has all primarly rights - thus, anyone else taking the child without the custodial parents permission is kidnapping that child.

When this is done by a non-custodial parent, this is called a "parental kidnapping". The FBI does enforce those cases.

Looking closely at this case, the mother is in custody, and will be returned to Maine, I see. The child, though, is in the hands of the state. The accusation of domestic violence, even if frivolous, has started a chain of events that can quickly spiral out of control. Dad is "guilty until *proven* innocent" now.


18 posted on 12/09/2005 8:54:45 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: thebaron512

Well, we agree with you, but historically the courts don't.


19 posted on 12/09/2005 8:55:39 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: SLB

E-town story ping.


20 posted on 12/09/2005 8:58:57 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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