Posted on 12/09/2005 3:55:11 AM PST by mlc9852
Man it's a hoot to watch these threads.
I just don't get it. If you evolutionists are so darn certain, why are you so scared of intelligent design.
Do you think people are stupid? Do you think that they aren't capable of weighing one against the other and deciding which has more merit?
You guys actually make people want to investigate intelligent design by the knee-jerk response you have to it.
Because you doth protest too much, IMO.
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I suppose it depends on whether you live in a liberal or conservative part of Florida. My daughter's school has been in the top five nationally in AP scores for a decade or so. Not to mention national science prizes, and other national competitions.
Schools are whatever the local school boards make them.
Hades? Mother, an anti-Christian, taught me, 'Heaven or Hell are here and now determined by what one makes of their circumstances.'
Ah, so sad to see the Darwinists upset.
Wrong.
You see the darwinists amused :o)
The Intelligent design therory is funny but far from intelligent
The colleges are pretty good, but the public school system is abysmal. My wife does 3rd grade FCAT tutoring and she can't believe that students don't even memorize the multiplication tables!
Scientists aren't fearful of ID. The protests are loud because ID proponents want science changed to include the supernatural. There is no room for fairy tale explanations in science, especially the type offered by ID where there are no falsifiable tests. These people want to muddy ALL of science just to have their personal philosophy injected into a place where it doesn't belong.
That's strange - most of the evo posters sound pretty upset to me.
netmom: Which I was taught in PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL as a fact, thank you.
I am afraid you were taught wrong: Most mutations harmful?
Okay - the schools are bad but the teachers are good. So I guess it's just the students who are the problem.
God is not a fairy tale. But then the majority of people already know that, don't they? Sorry - you're in the minority and you are losing more ground every day as ID continues to make inroads in the public schools.
To be fair....it's because of all the immigrants that flock here...some don't even know how to use a bathroom or speak english let alone read or do math. They really bring down the average. Same with texas and california I'm told.
That's strange - most of the evo posters sound pretty upset to me.
okay
i don´t believe in any god or whatever so this theory is just amusing to me.
Glad you're amused. I'm amused by atheists.
Afraid of ID? Hardly.
ID might possibly deserve serious consideration by scientists, who are qualified to fight out the battle over whether ID has any merit. This scientific contest would happen in the universities, at scientific conferences, and in referreed scientific journals. The public schools is not the right venue for this kind of battle. Were ID to survive serious scientific scrutiny, then it would deserve inclusion in high school curricula.
But the truth is that ID is speculative and poorly-supported. Mainstream scientists have dealt with ID in detail, and have pretty much torn it apart already.
The only thing I am afraid of is political manipulation of the science curriculum in the public schools. The fact that the ID people have resorted to this gives away their game: ID is much more a political movement than a genuine scientific movement.
Do you think people are stupid? Do you think that they aren't capable of weighing one against the other and deciding which has more merit?
You guys actually make people want to investigate intelligent design by the knee-jerk response you have to it.
Although from the plaintiffs' submission, this is a pretty good summary:
319. Intelligent design does not qualify as science for a variety of reasons:
(a) It violates the ground rules of science, as they have been practiced for hundreds of years since the scientific revolution, because it i) posits a supernatural actor as an explanation for natural phenomena and ii) it cannot be tested.[Dover] Plaintiffs' Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, pp. 140-141.(b) It has been universally rejected as science by the scientific community.
(c) It finds no support in the peer-reviewed scientific literature.
(d) It is not the subject of scientific testing and research.
(e) It makes no predictions and offers no explanations other than “the intelligent designer did it.”
(f) It is primarily a negative argument against evolution.
(g) The arguments made against evolution distort and misrepresent the real state of scientific knowledge.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1343600/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1351793/posts
Now you no longer have reason to repeat your "new species" mantra.
Most mutations have no effect whatsoever on the organism. It's time to update you High School knowledge base.
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