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Judiciary Committee Approves Legislation Preventing Illegal Immigration and Bolstering Border...
U.S. News Wire ^ | December 8, 2005 | House Judiciary Committee

Posted on 12/08/2005 4:39:01 PM PST by DumpsterDiver

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1 posted on 12/08/2005 4:39:02 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: gubamyster

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2 posted on 12/08/2005 4:39:56 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
on a party-line 23-to-15 vote approved legislation... that prevents illegal immigration

I cannot imagine how someone can be in favor of ILLEGAL immigration. And the Democrats actually think they can take over the House in '06 with a position such as that?

3 posted on 12/08/2005 4:45:07 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
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To: DumpsterDiver
That's real pretty...

But I am still waiting for Minetta to 'Arm Our Commercial and Cargo Pilots'...as he was told to do...or was he?

These slouches are famous for their high tone words and their foot draggin' unless its time to vote raises or pension perks.

imo

4 posted on 12/08/2005 4:46:57 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: Michael.SF.

Looks like a good bill to me.

Hard to believe anybody running for office would ever want to go on record arguing against anything there.

Of course, Dems do things I find UFB every day.


5 posted on 12/08/2005 4:59:34 PM PST by Kellis91789 (Rome didn't build a great Empire by having meetings. It did it by killing all who opposed it.)
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To: Michael.SF.
I cannot imagine how someone can be in favor of ILLEGAL immigration. And the Democrats actually think they can take over the House in '06 with a position such as that?

I haven't found out how they voted, but here's a list of the committee members.

109th House Judiciary Committee
http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx

Chairman: Hon. F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr.(R) Wisconsin, 5th

Ranking Member: Hon. John Conyers, Jr. (D) Michigan, 14th

Republicans

Democrats
6 posted on 12/08/2005 5:03:17 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
From the article:

The House Judiciary Committee today on a party-line 23-to-15 vote

Your list has 16 democrats, but the total has 15 nays. so there is a slight discrepency/error somewhere, but "party line vote" indicates all nays were dems.

7 posted on 12/08/2005 5:14:53 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
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To: Michael.SF.
The media are not too bright. Look at that headline. Pass a law to PREVENT illegal immigration. You can't prevent an act with a law. You can make it illegal, you can increase the penalty for breaking the law, but laws don't prevent things. The only thing that can PREVENT people from breaking laws are other people! These can be individuals, informal groups, private associations, corporate entities, police departments, armies or mobs.

Illegal immigration is ALREADY illegal! (Duh!) Because some legislature already passed laws against it.

8 posted on 12/08/2005 5:37:27 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Minetta! ARGH!


9 posted on 12/08/2005 5:41:00 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Look at that headline

I can over look a headline error, and often do, except to poke fun at the wording (ala James Taranto). Space limitations and such make such shortening necessary. BUT, take a look at the article:

House Judiciary Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R-Wis.) that prevents illegal immigration and takes needed steps

They compound the error and thus reinforce your point!

10 posted on 12/08/2005 5:43:09 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
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To: Michael.SF.
The House Judiciary Committee today on a party-line 23-to-15 vote.
Your list has 16 democrats, but the total has 15 nays. so there is a slight discrepency/error somewhere...

OK, I missed that part. If all the 23 votes were from Republicans, and since there are 16 democrats listed plus the ranking member (a Dem.) for a total of 17, I guess two Dems either abstained from voting or else they were absent.

11 posted on 12/08/2005 6:02:42 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver

So what are the chances this bill makes it?

Is it safe to assume that Bush will support it, if only for political reasons? Will he do his best to shoot it down? Any insight?


12 posted on 12/08/2005 6:08:14 PM PST by SC33
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Does NOT do enough!

What happened to ALL illegal entry being a felony?

"Multiple DUI" becomes a deportable offense?
How about just being here illegally is a deportable offense!

We will have to watch this closely, it may indeed be a set-up for "amnesty" next year.


13 posted on 12/08/2005 6:08:46 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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If all the 23 votes were from Republicans

Actually, it appears the statement "Party line vote" is wrong. There are 22 R's vs. 16 D's so 23-15 seems to indicate one dem had a momentary bout of sanity, or he did not get the memo in time.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 6:08:52 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
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To: Michael.SF.
There are 22 R's vs. 16 D's so 23-15 seems to indicate one dem had a momentary bout of sanity, or he did not get the memo in time.

But there's also the chairman of the committee (a Republican) and the ranking committee member (a Democrat). They get to vote, don't they?

Assuming that they do, there is a total of 23 Repubs and 17 Dems.

15 posted on 12/08/2005 6:15:31 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: SC33
Any insight?

Not yet. The Senate is allegedly working on the guest worker part of immigration reform and it's supposed to be attached to whatever the House finally passes. Just have to wait and see.

16 posted on 12/08/2005 6:23:29 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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If all the 23 votes were from Republicans

There are only 22 Republicans on the list. It looks like one Democrat crossed the line and voted with the Republicans.

17 posted on 12/08/2005 6:29:13 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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18 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:12 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Richard-SIA; SC33
When Amnesty Isn't Amnesty http://www.theamericanview.com/dictator/media/478/TheAmericanViewProg34.mp3
19 posted on 12/08/2005 8:34:08 PM PST by Egg ("...and everyone did what was right in his own eyes."--dark theme of the Bible book, Judges)
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To: DumpsterDiver

This might just be a feel good, look good step designed to get what they really want: an amnesty. The supposed plan is to merge this with an amnesty scheme from the Senate:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1534863/posts


20 posted on 12/08/2005 9:34:38 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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