Posted on 12/08/2005 3:53:30 PM PST by SierraWasp
Million dollar question:
Is there a viable candidate to replace him who is not to his left?
That people didn't vote, or vote for the initiatives Arnold put on the ballot. Obviously, voter concern was "elsewhere".
I tell ya, at the speed these guys serve it up, they oughta be waiters. (I'm so gonna have to stop there before I really go post-nuclear on 'em.)
Eek! I mean...uhhh...I didn't say nothin'. `8o]
Please come to grips with it, ok?
They effectively did. Named Tom McClintock. Lost.
McClintock ran against Schwarzenegger in a primary? When was that? I must have missed it.
He has governed more conservatively than expected by his critics on the right.
Ummm.... no. He is turning out to be their worst nightmare.
He has attempted getting fiscal affairs straightened out, making some progress.
He has increased spending at a greater rate than his predecessor and funded this inflated budget by borrowing more than double what his predecessor was trying to borrow (who was stopped in court by Republicans, btw). The budget is still out of balance, a huge deficit remains, and the cost of servicing debt looms on the horizon for more than a decade. How exactly is this progress?
75% of the judges he's appointed in LA County have been Dems. Another opportunity lost.
And you forgot... He's raised far more creepy contributions from unsavory "Special Interests" than Davis EVER did, which was one of the biggest reasons for the historic Davis Recall!!!
Give it up on trying so hard to justify this celebrity goofed up gubernatorial mistake, will ya???
Yes. But the ones who didn't vote are the same action-hero worshippers that got him elected. How will moving leftward help him if these know-nothing, celebrity-loving voters won't show up to the polls?
According to Republican analyst Dan Schnur in this analysis:
Most recently, he invested almost his entire store of political capital in a special-election reform effort supported almost solely by conservative voters.
That confrontation of a strong and motivated opponent is a surefire way to lose a campaign (while touting that one supported a "conservative" platform). This helps the socialist GOPers to promote the "conservatives can't win in California" mantra.
LOL. That one was a classic. To that poster, I would suggest a mirror. ;-)
First Prime Choice and now you. You both disturbed my bait. That's the last time I take you guys RINO hunting.
Oh... but they're OUR special interests so it's okay. /sarcasm
Seriously, I only mentioned the budget actions, but there are so many other acts that have been contrary to the platform of "fiscal conservativism" upon which he ran. The SNC land grab, for one. The subsidized programs he has promoted is another (solar roofs, stem-cell research, hydrogen highway). 2nd Amendment rights another (Assault weapon ban and other anti-gun legislation). Appointment of liberal judges. Appointment of leftists in his administration (Reiss, Tamminen, Henning, Kennedy, etc.)
I know I forgot something in there. So many are outraged by the Kennedy appointment and the possibility that Arnold will commute Tookie's sentence. Why haven't they been outraged by any of these other things? Or, are they just expressing outrage now, only to become an apologist after he takes yet another wrong step?
LOL. I was going to respond last night, but decided to let your bait stay undisturbed. I was interested in the response, as well. Apparently your bait only generated the same tiresome myth (see #74), so I figured it was fair game.
Not true. Tom has never run against liberal Arnold in a Republican primary. If they did, McClintock would clean his clock.
The only explanation is that Schwarzenegger has decided that the "true conservative" Republicans are never going to be in his base, and that he thinks he needs to build a new base that explicitly leaves the "true conservative" Republicans on the outside.
What you had better pray for is that he doesn't succeed in that effort. Because if he does, you're never going to get a damn thing in California ever again.
Worst case for "true conservatives" would be as follows: Schwarzenegger gets thrown out in the primary, runs as an independent in the general election, and wins. The California GOP will officially be dead and buried at that time.
Second-worst case: he survives a bitter, divisive primary, and wins anyway. At that point, "true conservatives" will be forced to make an unpleasant decision: leave the GOP (and lose all that walking-around money), or stay in the GOP (and show themselves to be a bunch of craven money-grubbing wimps).
Over the past 38 years, since coming home from Vietnam, I have seen more effort being spent on trashing "RINOs" of various flavors (sometimes, "RINO" ends up equaling "A guy I agree with generally, but he ain't me, and this state ain't big enough to accomodate both of our egos") than on fighting the loony left in this state. The result is that the legislature is a moonbat-leftist Democrat monopoly.
Rubbish. Schwarzenegger showed his Liberal streak long before this special election fiasco. He's championed MORE gun control, MORE borrowing (and for embryonic stem cell research no less), and MORE liberal judges for California. That ain't the work of anyone who's remotely interested in even trying to pay lip service to the core conservative platforms of the Republican Party.
With that in mind, that whole blame-the-conservatives Bravo Sierra just ain't got legs. Hell, if I came across an animal that lame, I'd put it out of its misery.
What "walking around money"? From what I've read, the CA GOP has left conservatives high-and-dry election after election while asking them to be supportive of their annointed "moderate" candidate.
"What "walking around money"? From what I've read, the CA GOP has left conservatives high-and-dry election after election while asking them to be supportive of their annointed "moderate" candidate.""
"Walking-around money" is soft money given to "grassroots organizations" of various sorts for "outreach" and other vaguely election-related tasks. And conservative groups are the first to make a beeline for the trough.
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