Iraqi WMD Debate and Intelligence: the Links to Libya

Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily ^ | January 30, 2004 | Gregory R. Copley

[SBD1]

I think this report says it all!!

The CIA should be replaced by the GIS!!

SBD

[Brad from Tennessee]

Or the Girl Scouts of America. At least they have adult supervision.

[Mr. Mojo]

....documentation of that small portion of the WMD program which was administered directly in Iraq was moved, along with other sensitive material and resources, to the Hshishi Compound at al-Qamishli (Kamishli) in Syria, just near the Iraqi border, in August-September 2002.

Imagine that such a thing should happen during the time we were messing around attempting to get UN approval.

[eureka!]

FYI. Interesting, and makes a lot of sense. Especially when one thinks about Libya's "Oh, here's our WMD program"....

[SBD1]

Speaking of the UN!!

GIS reports in 2003 also questioned the rôle of the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency leader, Mohamed el-Baradei, in suppressing or manipulating intelligence and perceptions relating to the Iraqi and Libyan WMD programs. Significantly, el-Baradei attempted to interpose himself into the Libyan situation following Qadhafi’s December 19, 2003, announcement that he was “relinquishing” his WMD programs. This appeared to be an attempt to stage-manage the closure of the Libyan WMD programs in such a way that Egyptian and Iraqi involvement was denied. [Dr el-Baradei is himself an Egyptian.]

Dr el-Baradei and others claimed, following the announcement by Qadhafi, that the WMD programs were at least five years away from being able to produce a nuclear weapon. The truth is that nuclear weapons capability, while not imminent, was — when the Iraqi and Egyptian scientific and financial backing were engaged — significantly closer than five years. However, it is true that the jointly-owned (Iraqi, Egyptian, Libyan) NoDong-1 missile batteries were already capable of strategically threatening southern European targets with chemical, and possibly biological weapons. Libyan and Iraqi scientists had already shown a significant capability to weaponize chemicals and possibly biological agents. As of 2000, they had a longer-range ballistic delivery system available to them than they had ever before possessed.

[arthurus]

I still think that is what Qadafi gave up when he turned over his nuke program. He had the hot potato in his lap and didn't want it any more.

[popdonnelly]

The truth about this work in WMDs needs to be made public. I would like to know when some public news source is going to look into this.

[Coffee_drinker]

Exactly. When we didn't find them in Iraq, he knew the very next place we would come looking for them was in Libya. So what this is saying is that Iraq's WMD was found just in another country!

Yes, bad intelligence, maybe but suppose we wanted to get the head of the snake and hope the rest would fold.

[Steve_Seattle]

Is this a respectable source (Defense and Foreign Affairs Daily)? I never heard of it.

[jackson29]

this i believe, is only the tip of the iceberg. worse than that... tis is what is being seen years after the fact.
the question that begs is.... who picked up the ball and where did they take it to?

[jackson29]

not only that you note the islamic conspiracy who dropped one partner momar, then had another partner removed (saddam), who else was/is involved? Is this the reason why Iran walks so funny and is so verbose? how about bellicose?

imo

the releases are way too late

[marron]

We've seen this before, but there is some additional detail here. The jist is that Libya's nuclear weapons program was Saddam's weapons program. It was also Egypt's. It doesn't say so here, but I have seen references elsewhere suggesting that the Saudis had an interest as well.

We've seen references elsewhere that Libya's uranium was shipped under the table from Niger (among other places in Africa) which adds an additional level of interest to the Saddam/France/Niger story.

[dynoman]

More information here on Posts 80-85

[Alia]

Imagine that such a thing should happen during the time we were messing around attempting to get UN approval.

There are no doubts in my mind, that this (Iraq/Syria event) was "observed and verified".

Other.

This led to the belief by Qadhafi — by now, in 2003, seriously ill with cancer — that the Bush Administration had targeted Libya for military action.

As in "give it up, Libya".

[Fedora]

Thanks! That'd make sense, and would fit with some RUMINT I heard. Egypt and Syria had a technology-sharing program with North Korea going back to 1973, IIRC. It sounds like what's being described here is an outgrowth of that.

Evidence Is Cited Linking Koreans to Libya Uranium

"The North Koreans have been selling missiles for years to many countries," one senior Bush administration official said recently, referring to the country's well-known sales to Iran, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan and other nations. "Now, we have to look at their trading network in a very different context, to see if something much worse was happening as well."

[piasa]

N. Korea Missile Techie Defector Reveals His Clandestine Biz Trips to a "Mideast Country"

[piasa]

APRIL? 2000 : (TAIWANESE BUSINESSMAN ON HIS WAY TO LIBYA IS ARRRESTED WITH NORTH KOREAN PARTS FOR SCUD MISSILES IN HIS BAGS) Three months later [after UK police intercept N Korean missile parts on their way to Libya] , a 44-year-old Taiwanese businessman was arrested at Zurich’s airport with three cast-iron parts for Scud missiles in his bags. The man, who was traveling to Libya, was released two months later and sent back to Taiwan. He told Swiss authorities he was only a courier and had no idea what the parts were used for.- "Uncrating a sea-going missile factory : Indian officials find Scud components aboard N. Korean ship, " FIRST OF TWO ARTICLES, By Joby Warrick, THE WASHINGTON POST, via MSNBCnews

[MilleniumBug]

 ...we [A.Q.Khan's party] reached Timbuktu on 24 February 1999. After spending a couple of days, we were on our way back and our first stop was Niamey, capital of Niger.
http://www.kashmirherald.com/featuredarticle/khanandbinladen.html

The information puts Khan in Niger in that period, detailing how his scientific court, installed in the hall of the Grand Hotel du Niger, gave appointments to local emissaries and clients from every imaginable country on a daily basis. Appointments where information, money and encrypted documents exchanged hands.
http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=3782

As I posted before, there is no doubt that Wilson went in 1999 (under the guise of investigating a 1998 deal), to broker what I believe were ongoing sales of Uranium from Niger to other rogue nations including Iraq.[and Libya]
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-lets-play-hide-cake.html

As a private citizen, Wilson reports that he made three trips to Niger, a landlocked hellhole in the Sahara, culminating the fateful trip of February 2002. The only reason he cites for his first trip in 1998 was to "participate in a cultural festival," at best a half-truth. [Trips to Niger in 1998, 1999, 2002]
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47487


Pattycake, pattycake, Wilson's the Man.
Africa's as big as any one Khan.
You dig it, you shop it,
You pack it, you ship it.
Bake me a Yellow Boy as fast as you can.
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2005/12/niamey_niger_19.html