Posted on 12/08/2005 6:53:39 AM PST by SJackson
That's alright, Mr Tobin. You may belittle the fact that we think they are trying to stamp-out Christmas, but this same group isn't aimed at Hanukkah but at the Jews themselves.
LOL! Great point!
I was doing some research into calendars and timekeeping recently. Calendars can be really complex beasts, especially when attempting to use them to determine precise dates in the distant past. One of the things I found most amusing was the discussions of the terms "BCE" and "CE". I think it is rediculous in the extreme to claim that this is the year 2005 C.E. especially when you consider the question, "what is it that makes that point in time a little over two thousand years ago special enough to claim it as an epochal dividing point in time".
If you are going to do away with the terms, "Before Christ", "Anno Domine", then you really need to pick some other dividing point to mark your base year.
How is it that Lowes was selling Christmas trees in its lot, called them Christmas trees en espanol but called them Holiday trees in English? What caused some executive to make that decision?
You are correct that there has been an assault on conservatism, capitalism, and Christianity. Of course, in this country it is not a physical assault, and Christians are not being beheaded here as they are in other countries. But it is an assault, nonetheless.
We have seen it in all aspects of our lives. It is the tyranny of the minority. As silly as a grievance may be, if someone feigns offense, a practice or tradition has to be changed to accommodate that person.
Culture, language, and traditions are what hold societies together. The assault by the left has been insidious and steady. A Christmas tree in a school offended someone. Okay, they called it a Holiday tree. That offended someone. Okay, they called it a Wishing tree. In one recent example, there was a wishing tree at a school. Wishing trees are used to help the less fortunate. Every year at the local mall, we choose a kid's name from the wishing tree and get him a gift. At a school in the state of Washington, one parent was offended by the wishing tree. So the wishing tree came down.
A business owner cannot allow his customers to smoke in his bar, even if they have always done that and the customers want to continue doing it.
A large city votes to ban guns and ammunition, and it demands that handguns be turned in.
It used to be that someone had to have some knowledge of our Constitution and speak English to take the oath of citizenship. In Los Angeles schools, there are over a hundred languages used. Ballots are printed in multiple languages at great expense. English, the language that has held us together, becomes less and less important.
Conservatives tend to think that homosexuality is wrong. But most also believe, live and let live. Do not parade naked doing disgusting things in front of our kids, and just go lead your lives. God will ultimately make a decision. But tolerance is not good enough. Homosexuals demand marriage. They demand adoption rights. They demand that we accept having two dads is just as good as having a mom and a dad.
It will cost the County of Los Angeles a great deal of money to remove a very small cross from the seal that is on vehicles, stationery, etc. Some people were offended. So a cross, which clearly has historical significance in the settling of California, had to be removed.
Looked at in isolation, Happy Holidays rather than Merry Christmas may not be the end of the world. It is a battle that some think is meaningless. But it can't be looked at in isolation. It permeates our society. And the left keeps pushing. Some of us think it is time to take a stand. We grew up with great memories and traditions of Christmas and Christmas spirit.
I will make some phone calls to let merchants know what I think and that I may no longer be a customer. They may or may not care. That's fine. But on this issue, it is time to make a stand. Lowes made a change. Sears made a change. Unless we make our voices heard, the insidious leftist slide will continue.
I need that extension :)
Would like to see a list of public and private entities that eschew Christmas this year but will embrace Kwaanza.
First of all I want to say to every Christian "HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!"
I am Jewish, and I wish all my Christian friends a very Merry Christmas! I am not in the least offended by Christmas cards, music, celebration of Christmas etc... I have even had Christian friends give me Christmas ornaments and I am happy to recieve them as presents.
I think it is right, proper and good to have Christmas in every store, every city square, and Christmas music on the radio and being played in public and private places.
I live in a rural area in Montana. Several years ago the local mayor was wondering what I thought about having Christmas items in the village displayed (the village I live in has 1200 people). I told him I would love to see such items up and every year.
It is the liberals: the liberal Jews, Christians, and atheists who are against Christmas - not the conservative Jews. Many conservative Jews find what is taking place with political correctness wrong. One of the first supporters of the Judge Roy Moore in Alabama was an Orthodox rabbi, not a liberal! Michael Savage is a Jew, just like Jackie Mason, (spelling) the comedian, who are leading the fight to KEEP Christmas celebrations going.
Hey today I even bought some candy canes and egg nog today! I even got my dog (she is a wolf/husky) a Christmas sock with presents for dogs today!
It is time that God fearing celebrated this time of year, welcoming the love and beauty of the season, let the atheists and liberals moan as they have no fun -- they never seem to want to have fun. We have enough enemies with the muslims wanting to kill every Christian and Jew for us to be fighting – instead we should unite!
The word "candelabra" brings up images of Liberace..
I don't watch television, but it appears from written news that a few opinion makers on television are disseminating propaganda stating that there is some kind of Jewish war against Christian symbols (whether they say it all or infer it, as usual). That's no new propaganda tactic. It's been recycled many times over the past 1700 years or so.
Meanwhile, there are pentagrams and illuminated, plastic idols all over the peaks up here, and the few neo-Nazi neighbors are looking forward to burning their yule logs and speaking occasionally and freely of their wishes for a "race war" (although their obesity would prevent them from waging war on anything more than fatty meats and pastries).
...point is that there is nothing to get excited about. If someone who owns a store wants to try to please customers of all religions with generalities, this is truly a country with freedom of religious expression. Store owners have the right to express what they wish (even generalizations). Property owners of all kinds should demand constitutional respect for their right to express religious celebrations as they wish.
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