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The FairTax and it's Implications for the U.S. Economy (Part II of Income Tax)
OpinionEditorials.com ^ | December 05, 2005 | Chris Liakos

Posted on 12/05/2005 2:36:33 PM PST by Eaglewatcher

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To: RobFromGa
Not true. Any purchase made for any business purpose would be exempt from FairTax. This will either be a mess for the retailer, or for the business owner trying to obtain rebates for the thousands of items purchased for business-- like all the expenses for the sales force.

Oh grow up. This is alreay in place for cities and states all over the country. Its not a mess its just normal operations, just like the handling of resale certificates which already is in place.

21 posted on 12/05/2005 5:18:43 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: lewislynn
Uh huh and the discussion is about a federal sales tax. So what was your point again?

The point is that the retail sale happened in your local jueisdiction and the local tax authorities is who you deal with, that is who you send your sales tax to, and that is who audits you.

What part of this is so hard for you to understand?

Have you actually READ the legislation?

23 posted on 12/05/2005 5:22:01 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: balrog666
ou got that totally bass ackwards, you dumbass. It means they can stroll over to your business and rattle your cage every time they get a yen to do so.

I can see you've never run a business. So the conversation is over.

24 posted on 12/05/2005 5:23:30 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: balrog666
Yeah! It's easier to be honest and open with the IRS - especially when we have to prove our innocence instead of that silly idea of being presumed innocent until proven guilty.

And those IRS rules and regs are sooooo easy to follow that they can't even answer questions about the rules themselves!... hey...wait a minute...

It's you that has it backwards, dumbass, to use your phrase.

25 posted on 12/05/2005 5:25:25 PM PST by Principled
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To: adamsjas
Lewis will soon tell you that you are dumb beause he can't understand the simple math behind inclusive rates.

Then he'll tell you you're dumb because he can't understand how expenses incurred by a business end up in the prices of their goods and services.

THen, he'll tell you that anticpated or actual tax expenses have no bearing on prices whatsoever.

Really. He will.

28 posted on 12/05/2005 5:28:32 PM PST by Principled
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To: RobFromGa

Simply amazing how many of them reject economic and political reality.


29 posted on 12/05/2005 5:29:54 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: balrog666
Just how stupid are you FairTaxIdiots?

Wow! ANother damning indication of the fair tax doom! You want to measure the stupidity of something you call a "fairtaxidiot". Man, you anti-reformers have some really strong agruments against reform!

dolt.

30 posted on 12/05/2005 5:30:38 PM PST by Principled
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To: adamsjas
Have you actually READ the legislation?
It's you, not me that's new here.

You didn't answer:
A) At what point does a local/state tax collector collecting federal taxes NOT become a federal tax collector...And
B) If "the calculations involved for FairTax are EASIER than local sales tax", what is the Fairtax sales tax rate?

31 posted on 12/05/2005 5:31:07 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: balrog666
Simply amazing how many of them reject economic and political reality.

SImply amazing that you can say so much, yet have so little to say.

Simply amazing how many of you reject economic and political reality.

Not hard to type crap.

32 posted on 12/05/2005 5:32:16 PM PST by Principled
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To: lewislynn; adamsjas
He wants you to expain the rates to him because he doesn't understand it. Really.

If you try, he'll begin yelling about prepositions and calling you stupid. Just you wait.

33 posted on 12/05/2005 5:33:43 PM PST by Principled
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To: balrog666

balrog666: You got that totally bass ackwards, you dumbass. 22

Thanks for so clearly discrediting yourself within the first eight words of your first post to the thread. You've proven, via your ad hominem, that you should be ignored.

35 posted on 12/05/2005 5:35:43 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: balrog666
You haven't refuted our arguments from the last 100 threads on the federal sales tax, why would you want us to post them again? Go read the link in post #14 and kiss your FairTaxCrap goodbye.

Golly, I'm dissappointed that balrog knows the future and it excludes tax reform. Alas.

It is you that hasn't refuted our arguments from the last 100 threads on the federal sales tax, why would you want us to post them again? Go read the link in post #14 and kiss your income tax goodbye..

I need to write a bot to repeat your crap. he he he dolt.

36 posted on 12/05/2005 5:37:40 PM PST by Principled
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To: Principled
He wants you to expain the rates to him because he doesn't understand it. Really.
Can you show an example of a Fairtax receipt showing the sales tax rate...Really, can you?
37 posted on 12/05/2005 5:38:33 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: lewislynn
Can you show an example of a Fairtax receipt showing the sales tax rate...

Um, lewis, it hasn't passed yet.

38 posted on 12/05/2005 5:39:19 PM PST by Principled
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To: RobFromGa
Nice of you to post your vanity post so we can all admire it endlessly as you hope we'll do.

Trouble is, Rob, that it is off base and you've been repeatedly corrected about it. There has never been any premise of a free lunch - except that phraseology dreamed up by your SQL folk in a pathetic attempt to ridicule the FairTax.

"The whole idea of keeping your whole paycheck and prices staying the same has been repudiated by Neal Boortz and John Linder now. The FairTax requires either cuts in gross pay, or large increases in the price of every good and service. "

These two sentences are outright lies as there has been no such "repudiation" as you claim nor does the FairTax require any pay cuts or price increases. That is merely part of your incessant fearmongering to scare those who have not looked into the FairTax website. Like some other of your claims about an inflated tax rate, there is no credence to the claims. You Squirrels are famous for this tactic.

In fact, we now know that all along your preference has been to retain the income tax (while you pretended or even stated otherwise for several months) so you may as well drop your pretense that you are, somehow, a disinterested observer. The FairTax supporters make no pretense and are openly for the FairTax yet so many of you guys like to hide behind dishonest guises perhaps because you think it gives your notions more weight (it doens't ... just the opposite in fact). We see a bit of that in this post when you hide behind a fake veil of "neutrality" until you finally 'fess up to being for the income tax.

Your groundless statement about "compliance" problems is just that as there are none. Nor is there a rebate problem as has been pointed out to you on several occasions since the easiest mechanism by far is endorsed in the language of the FairTax bill and that mechanism is presently in use in most states which obviates any rebate need - the resale certificate; and it protects the seller as well. Nothing could be simpler. Your strawmen are burning up right and left because of the incendiary lies you're putting out there. Do you suppose they will be left to stand unopposed when they are so patently false?

39 posted on 12/05/2005 5:39:51 PM PST by pigdog
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To: Willie Green
Willie, We've been here before son. You really need to stop perpetuating the myth that Scientologists are behind the FairTax.

While it is true that the IRS hounded the 'Church' of Scientology, there is no truth to the assertion that Scientologists are behind this legislation.

Here's a link to the case: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=490&invol=680
40 posted on 12/05/2005 5:41:44 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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