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Tookie Williams' timeout
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| Kathleen Parker
Posted on 12/03/2005 5:52:39 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67
"Dead, he's a martyr"
Nope, he's just a dead piece of human fecal matter.
To: bikepacker67
An excellent article that articulates my position much better than I could have.
I'm absolutely against the death penalty - unless it is applied by an individual protecting his life, liberty, or property. The state, on the other hand, should not be in the business of taking ones life. The state is too fallible and errors do occur; one innocent person being put to death by the state is too many!
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:00:01 PM PST
by
al_again
To: bikepacker67
Dead, he's a martyr So let him be a martyr. He'll still be dead.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:00:33 PM PST
by
SIDENET
("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
To: bikepacker67
Our first principle should be never to kill an innocent person, and thus err on the side of life.
Do I think Tookie is innocent of killing four people? No, I don't. Case closed.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:00:43 PM PST
by
SouthTexas
(What part of NO don't you understand?)
To: bikepacker67
"Dead, he's a martyr" Dead, Justice and Judgment are appeased.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:02:40 PM PST
by
freedom9
(Be good for goodness sake.)
To: bikepacker67
...Dead, he's a martyr... A martyr for what?
Dead, he's dead. The "celebrities" will forget all about him and go on to their next "cause celeb".
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:03:09 PM PST
by
FReepaholic
(Admitted FReepaholic since 1998.)
To: bikepacker67
Nice theorizing from Ms. Parker, whose writing I always enjoy, but as for Tookie, let him fry. Not just for the murders committed by his own hand, but for the hundreds, thousands maybe, of murders committed by his gang banger followers.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:03:33 PM PST
by
jocon307
To: bikepacker67
"Life without Parole" can always be commuted by some about to be indicited governor hoping to taint the jury pool. Death on the other hand is permanant at least in this life. If Tookie has a clemency request, he will have an opportunity to present it in the next life.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:04:12 PM PST
by
NavVet
(“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
To: bikepacker67
I love Kathleen Parker, but she's way off the mark here. The death penalty is the cold, impartial voice of a legalist society saying, "what you have done is so inexcusable that you no longer deserve to live among us". The voices of criminal attorneys and celebrities notwithstanding.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:04:43 PM PST
by
fat city
("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
To: bikepacker67
Be careful, Ms. Parker. You may want to listen to Dennis Prager. You are dipping your hands into innocent blood here. Justice dictates that since this man callously shed the blood of others, his blood must be shed by man as well.
Innocent blood, even if it's by proxy, is an indelible stain.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:05:20 PM PST
by
rdb3
(I have named my greatest pain, and it's name is Leftism.)
To: bikepacker67
I read an article once about a "judge" sentencing a murderer to "Life in prison without parole for 20 years." ROTFLMAO! What the heck does that mean?
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:12:55 PM PST
by
FlingWingFlyer
(It's no coincidence that the Democrat mascot is a jackass.)
To: rdb3
With the exceptions of sedition and espionage, I really don't think the state has any business killing citizens. That said, as long as we have a criminal justice system that allows thugs and murderers to write books, hold interviews and "profit" (not just in a monetary sense) from their crimes, maybe it's the only viable alternative at this time.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:17:25 PM PST
by
jess35
To: bikepacker67
I've got no problem with clemency, provided there are certain conditions.
#1 he is placed into a cell without windows or views into the hallways.
#2 he is given zero recreation time outside the cell.
#3 he is not given any food, again.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:17:51 PM PST
by
mcg2000
(New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
To: bikepacker67
I oppose the death penalty for one reason: The state makes mistakes, and one innocent murdered by the state is too many. I oppose driving, because one road death is too many.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:18:47 PM PST
by
SteveMcKing
("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
To: SteveMcKing
The death sentence IS a deterrent...I don't care what any freakin university study tells us...The bank robber, WILLIE SUTTON himself told me to my face that the only reason he didn't kill anyone is because he knew he would be killed by the death penalty. So there you have it.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:21:44 PM PST
by
Hildy
(Keyboard warrior princess - typing away for truth, justice and the American way!)
To: mcg2000
"I've got no problem with clemency, provided there are certain conditions." Surely his grovelling victims would have loved those options too, given the choice he forced upon them - their sudden terrified deaths without mercy.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:22:02 PM PST
by
SteveMcKing
("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
To: bikepacker67
No, just kill the SOB.
Then, the ensuing race riot will drive voters away from the Democrats.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:23:22 PM PST
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: Hildy
All arguments for the death penalty are secondary to the primary reason:
However difficult to face, it is the right thing that must be done.
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posted on
12/03/2005 6:24:50 PM PST
by
SteveMcKing
("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
To: bikepacker67
This man deserves his fate. He and his prodigies have destroyed thousands of lives. They have turned the streets of LA into killing fields and have shown no remorse for their carnage. The death penalty exists in this nation for men like this. To say that we should end capital punishment because someone innocent might be put to death is fine. Lets debate it after they bury this piece of garbage.
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