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On the Wal-Mart Money Trail (Why the left HATES Walmart!)
The (left wing) Nation ^ | [from the November 21, 2005 issue] | LIZA FEATHERSTONE

Posted on 12/03/2005 6:24:54 AM PST by narses

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To: Gabz
I'll be stopping by sometime this weekend. We need more light bulbs for the candles in our windows.
81 posted on 12/03/2005 7:57:41 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: narses


Here is WMT vs Costco


http://www.google.com/search?oi=stock&q=stocks:SFY&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSFY%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

Not exactly a rining endorsement for shareholders. Yes, many stocks havent moved, but those are mostly compaies with little or now growth, WMT has had growth, yet its stock is standing still.


82 posted on 12/03/2005 7:57:44 AM PST by RFT1 ("I wont destroy you, but I dont have to save you")
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To: RFT1

OOPs wrong link

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=5y&s=WMT&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=cost


83 posted on 12/03/2005 7:59:09 AM PST by RFT1 ("I wont destroy you, but I dont have to save you")
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To: RFT1

OK, so now what?


84 posted on 12/03/2005 7:59:28 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses
For years, liberal professionals have pushed concentrating people in locations where all their shopping and residential needs can be handled without a lot of travel. Now Walmart has made it possible for people to do the bulk of their shopping at one location so that they don't have to travel to multiple locations to meet their needs. And the liberals don't like the results of what they've asked for. It just shows their short-sightedness and their lack in ability of forward thinking.

I love it!

85 posted on 12/03/2005 7:59:40 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Liberals and MSM manipulate the news.)
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To: antisocial
"This thread is about WalMart. Support your claim that WalMart sells more Chinese goods than other major retailers or grocery chains." Walmart alone has become the # 4 exporter of Chinese goods.

So they are evil because they are successful?

When I buy a DVD at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a DVD at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a DVD at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a camera at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a film at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a TV at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a bag of chips at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a toaster at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy motor oil at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a snow shovel at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a garden hose at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

When I buy a book at Wal-Mart, it comes from the same source if I buy it anywhere else

86 posted on 12/03/2005 8:00:50 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: narses

Why do we need any other stores?


87 posted on 12/03/2005 8:01:24 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: narses

What now is look at WMT as a cpmpany that is starting to stagnate. Look at WMT as a company that is starting to suffer for its VERY bad reputation for customer service. Right or wrong, its bad PR image is taking a toll as well.

Also with your defense of Wal Mart, it seems to conflict with this.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum_en.html


88 posted on 12/03/2005 8:02:48 AM PST by RFT1 ("I wont destroy you, but I dont have to save you")
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To: narses
I googled it.

archives.econ.utah.edu/ archives/pen-l/2003w42/msg00008.htm

89 posted on 12/03/2005 8:02:58 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: nmh

And you for no apparent reason decide to attack my post that is clearly defending the right's positions saying we are not lemmings.....

Interesting.

I am neither for or against Walmart, I could care less whether people love or hate them. Why would anyone "Love" or "Hate' a store? Good grief people reality check here!

Do I shop Walmart? Sure on occasion. I don't shop there because of the size of the "super walmarts" I don't care to walk the size of a football field unless I haven't taken my morning jog.


90 posted on 12/03/2005 8:03:28 AM PST by stopem (Merry Christmas!)
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To: narses

One reason the left hates Walmart is because Wal-Mart has allocated the Salvation Army the greatest number of kettle locations nationally for Christmas. The Salvation Army has kettles at better than 3,600 local Wal-Mart's. The Salvation Army has a 104-year-old Christmas tradition that benefits many thousands of people in communities throughout the United States. And that why the left hates the Salvation Army and Walmart.


91 posted on 12/03/2005 8:04:32 AM PST by FreeRep
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To: narses

"Much of Wal-Mart's philanthropy (as well as that of the Walton family) has been directed toward promoting anti-government politics, whether by lobbying against high taxes for the rich or contributing to Republican candidates, conservative think tanks and efforts to privatize education."

Since when was "Contributing to Republican candidates anbd conservative think-tanks" considered an anti-government policy? This writer has the nerve to call the Wall Street Journal writers wing-nuts. What a dope!


92 posted on 12/03/2005 8:05:23 AM PST by onevoter
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To: narses
philanthropy provides an alternative to taxation, a way for rich people and corporations to decide what to do with their extra money, as opposed to letting the rest of us decide

Says it all. The Left has always been about having power over humanity and controlling it.

93 posted on 12/03/2005 8:06:53 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: RFT1

Pope Leo XIII was anti-Walmart? Wow. Do tell, exactly what part of Rerum Novarum is it that you read as anti-Walmart? You have read it, yes?

As for 'stagnate', make up your mind. You said "WMT has had growth,.." and now you say they are stagnate! Stock prices are set by complex markets. Shoppers keep BUYING from Walmart. They are now the LARGEST grocer in America. Stagnate indeed!


94 posted on 12/03/2005 8:07:21 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses
Translation of the entire article:

"Waaaaaaa! Wal-Mart doesn't contribute to socialist causes so they're evil!"

Sam Walton started his business from scratch. I agree with him when he says undeserving strangers shouldn't be helped. He did it, so can anyone else!

95 posted on 12/03/2005 8:07:56 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: genefromjersey

Walmart annual sales is 400 billion dollars. We only import 280 billion from China. So even if Walmart was the only company in the entire US that imported anything from China (obviously not true), Walmart would still sell 120 billion from somewhere else.


96 posted on 12/03/2005 8:08:34 AM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: tdewey10; narses
I refuse to defend Wal-Mart as long as they do things like the General Counsel of Wal-Mart requiring that every law firm it does business with have a minority lawyer on the "team" that does the Wal Mart legal work.

I think that greedy lawyers are an enormous threat to our Republic. The fact that Walmart is making them eat their own sh*t is very satisfying.

97 posted on 12/03/2005 8:08:46 AM PST by 10mm
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To: onevoter; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ..

Is Wal-Mart Good for America?
The campaign against the company is about union politics.

Saturday, December 3, 2005 12:01 a.m.

It is a testament to the public-relations success of the anti-Wal-Mart campaign that the question above is even being asked.

By any normal measure, Wal-Mart's business ought to be noncontroversial. It sells at low cost, albeit in mind-boggling quantities, the quotidian products that huge numbers of Americans evidently want to buy--from household goods to clothes to food.

Wal-Mart employs about 1.3 million people, about 1% of the American work force. Its sales, at around $300 billion a year, are equal to 2.5% of U.S. gross domestic product. It is not, however, an especially profitable company. Its net profit margins, at about 3.5% of revenue, are broadly in line with the rest of the retail industry. In fiscal 2004, Microsoft made more money than Wal-Mart on just one-eighth of the sales.

The company's success and size, then, do not rest on monopoly profits or price-gouging behavior. It simply sells things people will buy at small markups and, as in the old saw, makes it up on volume. We draw your attention to that total revenue number because, in a sense, it tells you most of what you need to know about Wal-Mart. You may believe, as do service-worker unions and a clutch of coastal elites--many of whom, we'd wager, have never set foot in a Wal-Mart--that Wal-Mart "exploits" workers who can't say no to low wages and poor benefits. You might also accept the canard that Wal-Mart drives good local businesses into the ground, although both of these allegations are more myth than reality.

But even if you buy into the myths, there's no getting around the fact that somewhere out there, millions of people are spending billions of dollars on what Wal-Mart puts on its shelves. No one is making them do it. To the extent that mom-and-pop stores are threatened by Wal-Mart, it's because the same people who supposedly so value their Main Street hardware store find that Wal-Mart's selection, or prices, or parking lot--something about it--is preferable. Wal-Mart can't make mom and pop shut down the shop any more than it can make customers walk through the doors or pull out their wallets. You don't sell $300 billion a year worth of anything without doing something right.

What about the workers? In response to long-running criticisms about its pay and benefits, Wal-Mart's CEO, Lee Scott, recently called on the government to raise the minimum wage. But as this page noted at the time, Wal-Mart's average starting wage is already nearly double the national minimum of $5.15 an hour.

So raising it would have little effect on Wal-Mart, but calling for it to be raised anyway must have struck someone in the company as a good way to appease its political critics. (Bad call: Senator Ted Kennedy quickly pocketed the concession and kept denouncing the company.) The fact is that the company's starting hourly wages not only aren't as bad as portrayed, but for many workers those wages are only a start. Some 70% of Wal-Mart's executives have worked their way up from the company's front lines.

The company has also recently increased its health-care options for employees on the bottom rungs of the corporate ladder. Starting in January, one of those options will be a high-deductible health savings account, which is a great way to insure yourself if you're relatively young, relatively healthy and yet want to protect against the onset of some catastrophic illness. Mr. Kennedy, who recently called Wal-Mart one of the most "antiworker" companies around, has been a chief opponent of these pro-worker, pro-market health insurance vehicles.

But suppose Wal-Mart did look more like the company its detractors would like it to be, with overpaid workers, union work rules, and correspondingly higher prices on goods. It would not only be a less attractive place to shop, and hence a considerably smaller company. It would drive up the cost of living for the millions who shop there, thus hurting those in the bottom half of the income-distribution tables that Wal-Mart's critics claim to be speaking for. One might expect this fact to trouble the anti-Wal-Mart forces, except that their agenda is very different from what they profess it to be.

As our Holman W. Jenkins Jr. pointed out in a recent column, the vanguard of the Wal-Mart haters is composed of unions that have for decades kept retail wages and prices artificially high, especially in the supermarket business. Those unions have had next to no success organizing Wal-Mart employees and see Wal-Mart's push into groceries as a direct threat to their market position. And on that one score, they may be right.

But seen it that light, it becomes clear that much of the criticism is simply a form of special-interest lobbying in socially conscious drag. And why an outside observer should favor the interests of unionized supermarket employees over those of Wal-Mart shoppers and employees is far from clear (unless you're a politician who gets union contributions).

Any company as successful as Wal-Mart will invariably run afoul of such vested interests. It is in the nature of the rise of a new giant on the scene that it disrupts established ways of doing things and in the process upsets established players. So it was with Standard Oil at the beginning of the 20th century, IBM in the middle and Microsoft at the end of the century. Wal-Mart, perhaps because it restricted itself to towns of less than 15,000 people as a matter of policy into the 1990s, at first avoided and later seemed blindsided by the attacks that have come its way.

The company has never been shy about defending its interests. But some of its recent ripostes--such as Mr. Scott's call for hiking the minimum wage or its gestures toward fighting global warming--seem to be addressed to the wrong audience.

Its customers don't need to be told what they like about Wal-Mart. But the company's management would do well to bear in mind that it is those millions of shoppers, and not the elites with which the company has sometimes of late been seen to be currying favor, that have made the company what it is.




98 posted on 12/03/2005 8:08:53 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: Wonder Warthog; BigBobber
They have been fighting to keep Wal-Mart out...and...they are actively working to attract a Costco.

Well well well....guess which company also happens to be a Biiiig DNC supporter!?!?!? Maybe someone can help me find the link of the two companies contributions in the recent presidential elections.

99 posted on 12/03/2005 8:09:48 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: TheForceOfOne
after WWII when America had a monopoly on the manufacturing trade, employers could pass union demands along to the customer in the form of higher prices

BINGO, Unions need a monopoly because non union businesses will kill them every time. That is why Public Unions are the only ones left. They have a guaranteed monopoly.

100 posted on 12/03/2005 8:10:35 AM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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