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On the Wal-Mart Money Trail (Why the left HATES Walmart!)
The (left wing) Nation ^ | [from the November 21, 2005 issue] | LIZA FEATHERSTONE

Posted on 12/03/2005 6:24:54 AM PST by narses

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To: kindred
Perhaps many of these freepers are socialists.

As the Dem party has moved further left, many traditional socially conservative/pro-government individuals have become Repubs only as a last resort. In their heart, they're still pro-union/pro-gov't/anti-business.

142 posted on 12/03/2005 8:55:32 AM PST by lemura
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To: narses

Those numbers look good.Yeah... But what is the average annual pay for a wal mart employee? Are they the people buying new homes and new cars and driving our economy in other phases? No. Are they paying taxes that support the welfare state or are THEY part the welfare state the rest of us support with the taxes we pay???

We need to be careful with what the public subsidizes or we end up being taxed out of existance to support so called economic development.


143 posted on 12/03/2005 8:55:39 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: narses

The writer on the one hand criticizes WM for not giving enough to charities,and then when they do donate the writer criticizes WM as giving for the "wrong reasons"(ie tax write off,for pr reasons)Sounds like WM is in a lose/lose situation.


144 posted on 12/03/2005 8:55:57 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: AlexW
Yes, it is sad to note that even FR has dog's in the manger.

Yep.


145 posted on 12/03/2005 8:59:38 AM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and it's name is Leftism.)
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To: antisocial
Companies that trade with the Communist Chinese military just need to be sure that what they are promoting is in the long term interest of the United States.

Then you need to go after HP, DELL, GE, Disney, CocaCola, Microsoft, P&G, American Express, Verizon, Intel, etc.

Where's the outrage?

146 posted on 12/03/2005 9:01:36 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: narses

WalMart has stores in China, your list excludes. I've been in one in Shenzhen, and yes, chicoms can buy "Made in USA" products there!!


147 posted on 12/03/2005 9:04:44 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: o_zarkman44

" But what is the average annual pay for a wal mart employee? "

What was the pay of the jobs those same employees left? FREE people CHOOSE to work there.

"Are they the people buying new homes and new cars and driving our economy in other phases?"

Most of the Walmart employees in my neighborhood own their own homes. The beauty of the Walmart model (building in underserviced rural America) is that labor is cheaper and so is the cost of living.

"Are they paying taxes that support the welfare state or are THEY part the welfare state the rest of us support with the taxes we pay???"

They pay taxes, they also generate sales tax revenues.

What do you propose, higher taxes? A forced increase in wages? Forced unionization?


148 posted on 12/03/2005 9:06:56 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: o_zarkman44; narses
But what is the average annual pay for a wal mart employee?

Well, how bout I spot you an anwser. Let's just say they pay more than the minimum that people are willing to work for. Is that ok with you?

149 posted on 12/03/2005 9:09:41 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: em2vn

Unfortunately, truth is also your enemy.

Believe whatever the left wishes you to believe. Don't let facts get in your way.


150 posted on 12/03/2005 9:09:53 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: BigBobber

The left doesn't hate Walmart as much as they hate success. It is de rigeur that they destroy the most successful corporations so that they can complain about job loss, underclass and all that rot. It is just another way to keep the natives on the plantation.


151 posted on 12/03/2005 9:10:49 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: stopem

What's not so interesting is your blind hypocrisy.


152 posted on 12/03/2005 9:11:45 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: rdb3; AlexW; narses

I'm bouyed a bit by this thread. It really has a nice contrast between the anti-capitalists on FR and the real conservatives. Unlike some of the WalBashing threads I've seen, this one kinda turned the lights on the cockroaches.


153 posted on 12/03/2005 9:14:18 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Nothing is said about the unemployed. We are talking about the employed......in foreign countries.

"We pay the China fab average 3c per chip to manufacture them.
We pay the Malaysian vendor to package it (+2c)
We sell the finished chip back to Taiwan and China for 20c."

So the Chinese chip maker employee makes what....3$ a day..2$???? $1.00... how much??? And produces how many chips a day? The packager gets 2 cents. Total cost is 5 cents.
And then there is a .15 cent markup on each chip sent back to taiwan..... so the charge of $320 worth of chips includes the markup of .15 or 75%. So there is a 75% markup earned by the subsidiary that is undoubtedly owned by HP or it's counterpart. And then HP adds another $125
markup....so all the markup is post production if I read your post #132 correctly.

Same goes for manufacturing job by wal mart. all the markup and profit is post production. The very people who make those items cannot afford to buy them even in their own country, so they are exported, and that is providing good jobs?


154 posted on 12/03/2005 9:16:26 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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Question Categories Percentage
In terms of your job Employed 43.1%
status before you joined Unemployed, looking for work 27.0%
Wal-Mart, were you Unemployed, not looking for work 3.0%
employed, unemployed Retired 5.5%
but looking for work, Student 9.8%
unemployed but not Homemaker 8.9%
looking for work, retired, a Other 1.8%
student or a homemaker? Don't know 0.7%
Refused 0.1%

What industry did you Retail/grocery 27.2%
work in before joining Restaurant/food service 13.4%
Wal-Mart? Was it: Government or civil service 2.8%
Education 3.2%
Healthcare 5.7%
Manufacturing 8.1%
other sales or service 10.6%
Some other industry 24.1%
Don't know 1.1%
Refused 0.7%
None 3.1%

Using the following sacle, Much Worse 3.7%
rate Overall Job Quality Somewhat Worse 7.1%
About the same 22.1%
Somewhat better 21.6%
Much better 36.5%
Does not apply 6.1%
Don't know 2.6%
Refused 0.3%

Using the following sacle, Much Worse 11.8%
rate Wages Somewhat Worse 10.9%
About the same 17.0%
Somewhat better 19.6%
Much better 32.3%
Does not apply 6.4%
Don't know 1.1%
Refused 0.9%

Using the following sacle, Much Worse 5.5%
rate Opportunity for Advancement Somewhat Worse 5.8%
About the same 16.8%
Somewhat better 17.5%
Much better 42.5%
Does not apply 8.1%
Don't know 3.1%
Refused 0.7%


155 posted on 12/03/2005 9:17:06 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: o_zarkman44

What do you do for a living, if I may ask?


156 posted on 12/03/2005 9:17:52 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: nmh

The Nation is home and megaphone to such a nest of parasites and trust-fund liberals--they make Sam Walton look prescient, IMO, for wanting to keep his hard earned fortune away from them. The bottom line is, power hungry and avaricious leftwing nuisances who are insanely envious of the Waltons' wealth.


157 posted on 12/03/2005 9:18:10 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: sam_paine

It is a refreshing change.


158 posted on 12/03/2005 9:18:14 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses
The left HATES giving that doesn't benefit socialism.

Any giving which they don't control, doesn't count.

159 posted on 12/03/2005 9:19:25 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: o_zarkman44

Oh! Well then! So you aren't mad at WalMart specifically, you are mad at the Chinese people that take home meager wages?


160 posted on 12/03/2005 9:23:02 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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