Posted on 12/03/2005 6:18:54 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
I got the impression that one could apply to testify even if not specifically invited...sort of like a "friend of the court" type of testimony or briefing.
As I said, you did not address my quote, and you still haven't.
As for pigs... show me a pig solid organ transplant or get off it.
The pig tissues you refer to are dead tissues.
So, how do you feel about Dr. Bailey's statements vis a vis his choice of baboon rather than chimp heart?
Could be... I'd like to find out, but my time is kind of limited today. Maybe I'll get to look it up in a few days and, if I find anything, I'll post it.
second reply
so far I've got this quoting his testimony and saying he was invited.
not a neutral source, though.
"...Akyol argued that Islamic militants hate the US because it is "materialistic", and that if the US were to teach supernatural creationism, the Muslims would become more friendly to us: "That philosophy, as we all know, is also called naturalism, the idea that nature is all there is. And when that idea, when that philosophy, which has no scientific justification at all, becomes the dominant force in science education in the United States, what you have is that you will have alienated people. You will-- for example, Muslims. They will feel alienated. They will think that there's a school system which imposes on them, on their kids, a philosophy which they don't believe, and which they find to be poisonous, and which doesn't have any scientific evidence at all. That's the important point." (Akyol testimony, Kansas Hearings transcript)
Presumably, Akyol was invited to testify in order to allow IDers to declare that ID isn't simply a front for Christian fundamentalism.
from: Kansas Kangaroo Kourt
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/kansas.html
As I said, yes I did. Again, So? The choice was not by one individual. The heart was not rejected. The baby lasted longer on the baboon heart than the first human heart transplant. And much longer than any chimpanzee transplant that I know of. So what does evolution have to say about this?
http://www.teachersdomain.org/6-8/sci/life/stru/transplant/
The procedure of transplanting animal organs into humans, or xenotransplantation, became a reality in 1964 (before the first human-to-human heart transplant) with the first chimpanzee-to-human heart transplant. While this pioneering procedure was ultimately unsuccessful (the chimpanzee heart was not large enough to sustain the circulatory needs of the human patient) it promised a steady supply of organs -- if the right species could be found. Today, most xenotransplantation research focuses on pigs, since the size and output of an average-sized pig heart is very close to that of a human heart. Unfortunately, rejection is even more likely in cross-species transplants. And drugs that can keep a patient from rejecting a pig heart render that patient's body almost completely defenseless in the event of infection.
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