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Sacramento’s myth machine: Arnold is buying the wrong lessons about Nov. 8.
California Political Review ^ | Dec 2, 2005 | Frank Duclos

Posted on 12/02/2005 7:34:27 AM PST by ElkGroveDan

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Well this sure hits the nail on the head.
1 posted on 12/02/2005 7:34:28 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: calcowgirl; doodlelady; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge

needs some pings


2 posted on 12/02/2005 7:38:50 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Arnold put the measures up on the ballot and then proceeded to ignore them.

I know he was raising a LOT of money, but I didn't see it getting spent.

The failure of those initiatives reflects the lack of leadership by Arnold and nothing else.

His willingness to veer left in search of a crowd to walk in front of demonstrates that even further.


3 posted on 12/02/2005 7:46:19 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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The Normality Base never felt the sense of urgency about the Special Election they did about the recall. They simply didn’t vote.

So many good points. Thanks for the ping.

4 posted on 12/02/2005 7:56:16 AM PST by b9
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To: ElkGroveDan

Arnold asked to be on Roger Hedgecock's show yesterday to explain his Susan Kennedy appt.

He said it doesn't show him moving left, it shows her moving right.

Hedgecock wasn't buying the spin.


5 posted on 12/02/2005 8:02:23 AM PST by b9
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To: ElkGroveDan

Sorry, I've lost whatever confidence I'd had in the man. I was shaken when the putz banned .50 caliber rifles and now that he has a lesbian-feminist Gray Davis staffer running his office I'm done with him.


6 posted on 12/02/2005 8:02:31 AM PST by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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There was a sound bite of Arnold saying he "should have listened to his wife more" during the special elections.
So it appears as if Maria made this appointment for him.
We won't be voting for him again.


7 posted on 12/02/2005 8:15:59 AM PST by pugmama
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To: ElkGroveDan
their loss has merely maintained the status quo Capitol power balance — disappointing, yes, but hardly a setback.

The voters who recalled Gray Davis and elected Arnold governor make up a loose group that I call the Normality Base: Republicans, thinking independents, and conservative Democrats. They are busy soccer moms, harried commuters, and stressed out small business owners. They tend to agree with Republicans much of the time. The Normality Base never felt the sense of urgency about the Special Election they did about the recall. They simply didn’t vote.

The unmotivated Normality Base are still here and still don’t care much for big government and high taxes. They will vote in greater numbers in the next scheduled election. This base is poised to re-elect the governor if he sends the right message. Conversely, the Susan Kennedy appointment indicates likely electoral disaster for Schwarzenegger if it is the beginning of a hard left shift toward supporting higher taxes and bigger government

Not likely. The Republican Party in CA doesn't have the muscle to outdo the Democrats when they engage in all-or-nothing warfare, but Schwarzenegger is not going to abandon fiscal reform. Interesting analysis.

8 posted on 12/02/2005 8:20:41 AM PST by GVnana
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Most refreshing.
9 posted on 12/02/2005 8:21:06 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Elephants have long memories. Arnold is going to crash and burn in the next election. Then again one wonders if California has any Republicans anymore.


10 posted on 12/02/2005 8:27:53 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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Schwarzenegger is not going to abandon fiscal reform.

All he's done is send budgets to the legislature with record spending covered by record bond debt. If that's "fiscal reform" I don't want any more of it.

11 posted on 12/02/2005 8:34:47 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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I don't think so. But there's always Phil Angelides.


12 posted on 12/02/2005 8:36:25 AM PST by GVnana
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one wonders if California has any Republicans anymore.

I guess you didn't read the article. He points out that only 18% of voters came to the polls to hand this so-called Republican defeat. They are there. But they are busy, disconnected, and out of touch. Someone needs to light a fire under them. Ironically I think Arnold just did that this week.

Over 5 million Californians voted for Bush in 2004. If those had had been giving a sense of urgency to vote this time, it would have been a thorough trouncing.

13 posted on 12/02/2005 8:41:36 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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I don't think so.

Sorry, we don't use Democrat standards for subjective reality here. This is FreeRepublic, where blanket claims must be supported by sourced facts. So, allow me to cure your "thinking."

According to the Legislative Analyst's Office, Arnold's Budget (you know, THE BUDGET HE SUBMITS TO THE LEGISLATURE) proposed total 2004-05 general fund spending of $78,028,000,000. In the same report, ARNOLD'S BUDGET proposed total 2005-06 general fund spending of $84,471,000,000.

That's an 8.25% increase any way you slice it.

Gray Davis' average rate of growth in total spending was 6%.

14 posted on 12/02/2005 9:17:44 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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"Big labor made an urgent case to their members that their very jobs were at risk. Their voters showed up and cast ballots."

Isn't this what I've been telling all of you FReepers for over a year now???

You bet it is!!!

15 posted on 12/02/2005 9:29:57 AM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Carry, for your information, I took a "cure" a long time ago, and I hardly need medicine from arrogant, intolerant, name-calling, snake-oil peddlers. Thank you.


16 posted on 12/02/2005 9:43:15 AM PST by GVnana
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Reality BumP


17 posted on 12/02/2005 9:55:06 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Carry, for your information, I took a "cure" a long time ago, and I hardly need medicine from arrogant, intolerant, name-calling, snake-oil peddlers. Thank you.

I see. You call the Legislative Analyst's Office "snake oil."

I've bookmarked this exchange for all to see every time you fling one of your bogus claims about Arnold as a "fiscal conservative." Your credibility here is now shot.

18 posted on 12/02/2005 10:00:01 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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Isn't this what I've been telling all of you FReepers for over a year now???

Actually SW I believe we had an echo chamber going here. I guess the echo is finally escaping.

19 posted on 12/02/2005 10:00:46 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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Sorry, I don't buy it that the CTA is bruised and weakened. They've been boasting and arrogantly struting their political agenda even more stridently than ever before.

Their last magazine issue focused on promoting single payor health care. What's the connection to educating children, you ask?? There is none, but they are beyond caring in their joy of victory.

If anything, this may signal that a significant minority are sick of initiatives and want the legislature to work it out.

Too bad the legislature is out of touch with any actual voters.


20 posted on 12/02/2005 10:16:20 AM PST by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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