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1 posted on 11/30/2005 2:35:55 PM PST by churchillbuff
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murdering four people in 1979 ... shoddy forensics wrongly connected him to three of the murders.

OK, I've made up my mind. Give him a new trial for the three murders, after we execute him for the fourth. Fair enough?

42 posted on 11/30/2005 3:04:05 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - Living proof that one need not be poor to be White Trash)
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It's the wrong clemency at the wrong time in the wrong state. Don't do it Arnie. Don't try and win Lib points. They will stab you in the back like they do EVERY SINGLE TIME


44 posted on 11/30/2005 3:06:51 PM PST by jw777
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I was listening to my local radio talk show the other night and a caller was telling about the evidence, the witnesses, and the fact that Tookie didn't actually "write" these children's books.>p> Tookie claims he has "redeemed" himself over the years, but my question is this: How does someone redeem themself if they don't admit any guilt in the first place? Big conflict for Tookie....

Also: This caller into the radio show stated that once Tookie was imprisoned he planned an escape with another, or others, and part of the plan was to hijack a prison bus and kill the driver to escape.

When Tookie was arrested he had a big "killing" in the works.

Tookie.......don't let the door hitcha on the way out.

46 posted on 11/30/2005 3:16:18 PM PST by libertylass
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What's the Vegas line on this? One might be able to make some serious dough on the Tookie vs Schwarzennedy bout.


50 posted on 11/30/2005 3:26:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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What are the current odds that Ahnold grants clemency?

Based on what's goin on in Sacramento the past few days, I think a RINO in power would be a step up from what ever it is that Ahnold claims he is.
51 posted on 11/30/2005 3:26:58 PM PST by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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The governor has a difficult decision to make. Hopefully the rantings of the MSM on the left or Web sites like this one on the right will not sway him. God help him to make a wise choice using all of the information available to him.
52 posted on 11/30/2005 3:31:22 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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http://www.govmail.ca.gov


56 posted on 11/30/2005 3:36:29 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Arnold Schwarzenegger will just be amongst the other molly-coddling, corrupt officials who will side with the other Hollywood assholes to gain popularity points. He is an actor and not a very good one at that. He isn't and never was a politician and should not have been in a position to decide such an important issue. I would be willing to bet if Tookie had killed Arnies' wife and children his decision would be easy. But it involves someones else's loved ones and since he could care less about the common citizens, he will probably let him live at the courtesy of the taxpayers.
62 posted on 11/30/2005 3:53:44 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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If Arnold blows this, he can kiss the GOP nomination in 06 goodbye.
66 posted on 11/30/2005 4:52:19 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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Yesterday on my way home from work I was listening to the John and Ken show on AM 640 KFI Los Angeles.

They were interviewing someone (I forget his name) that was supposed to have been one of the original two co-founders of the Crips in 1968.

He says he is the one who recruited Tookie into the Crips in 1971. That Tookie is not a co-founder or even one of the original Crips. That this is a lie Tookie tells (among many) to create his false bona-fides. He also claims that Tookie, besides being a liar and a cold-blooded murderer, is also a pedophile. He said that the governor should not commute the death sentence. He said Tookie should die.

According to this person, he left the gang after he started working out at Golds gym. That while working at Golds gym he met Arnold who had just won his third (?) Mr. Universe title.

Apparantly, he had been working on helping Tookie with lifting weights as an alternative to gang-banging, and even introduced Tookie to the Governor back in 70-71. But apparantly tookie decided not to continue training with them and six months later was in jail for the murders he now faces death for.

It was a very interesting interview. If this guy is to be believed it further testifies to Tookies duplicity. It also raises some questions as to how it may affect Arnolds thinking concerning a commutation, since he has met Tookie before and was apparantley immpressed with his body-building.


79 posted on 11/30/2005 6:38:02 PM PST by PsyOp (Men easily believe what they want to. – Caesar, De Bello Gallico, III, 18.)
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Arnold is a liberal at heart and I am confidant he will do the wrong thing.


82 posted on 11/30/2005 7:56:23 PM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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If you're famous, you get a private hearing. If you're just a dirtbag, you get the needle. That pretty much sums up the difference in the fate of Tookie scumbag and the rest of the killer thugs on Death Row up in San Quentin.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

85 posted on 12/01/2005 12:37:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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if he grants clemency he will be the girlieman in politics


89 posted on 12/01/2005 8:36:59 AM PST by DM1
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