Posted on 11/30/2005 8:40:01 AM PST by epow
Better yet, let's free Mexico. If they lived in a truly free country they could prosper and do well. They are resourceful capapble people who are screwed by an oppressive form of socialism.
Yeah, but they mix better drinks in corrupt South American hellholes.
As long as they are legal, I have no problem with that.
The Constitution allows for tariffs to protect you.
Hey, folks, there's something wrong with this thread. We're having a civil, rational discussion about immigration. I'd better call the mods.... ;-)
You didn't really know his status until you got confirmation that Pedro's number belonged to "Barbara".
He has to have good judgment. If he doesn't, he can lose his business.
If you can lose your business because of it, then it is your business to know it.
No. The card looked legit as did all his other documents. The forgeries aren't in crayola you know. I go so far as to refuse laminated SSN cards. It is illegal to laminate them.
Define "good judgement." Lawyers will have a field day with that one. If all the documents are legit, what's the beef. All I'm saying is the system is burdensome enough, please, no more requirements.
This is what I have been saying from day one.
The vast majority of the illegals are here for 1 main reason, which is employment and with that comes money and health care to a certain extent.
Right now, the penalties for the people hiring the illegals aren't nearly steep enough, which is why there is a job-rich environment for these people to make the trek to where the job or jobs are.
There is more than one thing that needs to be fixed. The Border needs to be secured. I get the feeling that this is happening, maybe not a wall, but the surveillance is being stepped up alledgedly. The employers are preying on these desperate people. That alone makes them bastards, but they are also breaking the law, so throw the book at them.
Then finally, the entire immigration system needs to be re-vamped and tightened.
But if the same SS number has five jobs at the same time, then someone needs to check. There is no reason we can't sort out the illegals. It shouldn't be that hard.
Iran is next on the list. Mexico will have to wait in line.
How can I lose my business if Pedro is talking about a 15 year old girl? Is he telling the truth or bragging? Guys are full of BS. We all know that. If I don't have anything hard on the guy (no pun), I can't really do anything. If he really scares me I call the cops, but most of the times cops don't check things out.
I held 5 jobs at the same time and I was born here. I know plenty of legit folks that hold more than one job - more than 3.
I really had no idea how many of these guys were on the up and up until a fed trapper came to the property. We sounded a siren to call for coyotes and half my workers ran away.
Is that reason to fire them all? Did some run because others did? Maybe they owed child support (most do).
I should say siren sounding isn't probably the best litmus test either.
I also remember an insident where an employee who had been working for a while came up with bad documentation (SSN and INS contacted us). I was instructed not to fire him, but to ask him to rectify the situation. When I did, he simply never returned to work.
<<< It isn't that hard. We have computers nowadays. You can't rent an apartment without getting a background check.>>>
Most Companies won't even let you QUESTION the documents presented by an illegal, because to do so AND BE WRONG means MILLIONS in a racial discrimantion lawsuit!
This was the POLICY at a major Corporation I used to work at. A few fines were cheaper than fighting a Couple of dozen Race Discrimination suits......
Again, that's something that could be, and should be, corrected by Congress. If enough POed voters demand in no uncertain terms that it be corrected it will be corrected.
We simply have to start being good citizens and hold our Senators and representatives of whatever party accountable for not protecting us or our country from what amounts to a foreign invasion by millions of lawbreaking aliens. If we don't it will be as much our fault as anyone else's when the US becomes indistinguishable from any other Latin American country.
Of course now that we will be enforcing immigration law, to not question those documents will also result in million dollar fines. And it will result in workplace disruptions when the INS raids you. And maybe even jail time. So I guess something's got to give. Guess which side I'm on.
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