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CRACKING DOWN ON ILLEGALS? [Prez Bush And His Amnesty Program Equals Do Nothing]
Neal Boortz ^ | Nov. 28, 2005 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/28/2005 7:29:40 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: TXBSAFH

Isn't it interesting that in the name of Homeland Security fedgov policies have put troops in our airports shaking down gray-haired white folks but our borders leak like a sieve allowing any number of killers, thieves, rapists, etc. into the country to terrorize innocent Americans.

Recently, a fine young Dallas cop was gunned down by some drunk Mexican illegal who was allowed on our streets because of the Dallas PD policy of "don't ask, don't tell"........so all in the name of gutless PC a fine young man is in a grave. I'm sure in the twisted minds of these political/MSM useful idiots it's just another casualty of the revolution to de-construct this country as we know it.


41 posted on 11/28/2005 9:53:41 AM PST by american spirit (Can you handle the truth? - www.rbnlive.com ( 4-6 CST M-F)) / click "listen live")
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To: azhenfud

azhenfud, Great post.

What about checking citizenship status when renting apartments or buying real estate? The illegals that come over here all need a place to stay. If the person who owns the real estate is responsible for verifying citizenship status, there would be a mass exodus of illegals back to Mexico, or other country of origin.

Likewise on schools and, as you mentioned, hospitals.


42 posted on 11/28/2005 9:54:25 AM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: SwankyC
SSN

Who's gonna track that?

43 posted on 11/28/2005 9:54:51 AM PST by r9etb
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To: akron
The Republicans under Bush have been so worried about courting the Hispanic vote, that they are losing their voters.

This is another reason why they are called the "stupid" faction in the "Two-Party Cartel".

44 posted on 11/28/2005 9:58:07 AM PST by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy

It's true illegals need a place to stay, but to deprive them of the funds or the means to acquire that apartment or real estate would have the same effect.

Regards,
Az


45 posted on 11/28/2005 9:58:26 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Plutarch
" It is about the cheap labor lobby."

That AND as a bonus Mexico sheds itself of all those that would rise up to make change. The fear of course being it would go Communist. Just how quick would that wall go up then? Practically overnight.

46 posted on 11/28/2005 10:03:42 AM PST by moehoward
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To: azhenfud
9) I'm in favor of hospitals and health care providers being required to disclose publicly, in print, and upon demand, the names of all non-citizens/indigents receiving any medical care which is billed to or paid for by taxpayers along with the costs of those services billed or be penalized by losing reimbursements for any payments due to be paid from taxpayer funds. All hospitals and health care providers should be held openly accountable for how they spend or use public funds and accountable to the citizen first and the illegal alien only in emergency cases.


This one concerns me although it's really a self eliminating problem as the illegals are deported. From a caregiver standpoint, it would break the very oaths that they are required to take and really believe in. I just don't see them turning away an illegal who is in a life threatening emergency. I guess I view it as an ethical thing although there's been nothing ethical about the way our Government has handled our open borders.
47 posted on 11/28/2005 10:31:14 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: poorjerk
The solutions are simple:

Force/coerce/badger/hector and otherwise harass Mexico's corrupt political elite into cleaning up their act and giving their own citizens a shot at the Good Life.

To encourage them in attaining this noble goal, ban cruise ships from stopping at Mexico's resorts, prohibit or have looong inspections of any tourists heading south, be creative and bust their cojones until they get the message that the Gringos aren't taking this B/S any more.

Fine and JAIL those who knowingly employ illegals on our side. One or two bigs shots doing even 90 days will send a loud message to those on our side.

Anything less is just akin to the Dutch Boy and the Dike routine.

Of course there will be lots of screaming, but then, "Ah feel yore pain."

48 posted on 11/28/2005 10:42:30 AM PST by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: moehoward

" It is about the cheap labor lobby."

Bush really likes the donations from the business lobby. He may get lots of cash from them but he seems to forget that they can't vote. I guess he thinks he'll get all the hispanic vote. Fat chance- 60% or more of them are democrats.


49 posted on 11/28/2005 11:17:22 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

I really believe it's all about the FTAA/American Union and all that implies. Illegal imm. is just TPTB's way of telling us this hemispheric union ala the EU is going to be shoved up ours regardless of what we peons do or say.


50 posted on 11/28/2005 11:24:51 AM PST by american spirit (Can you handle the truth? - www.rbnlive.com ( 4-6 CST M-F)) / click "listen live")
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
Apparently we will never get the chance to vote for anyone who will do anything about the situation.

You may get a chance to vote for someone who will do something but the oligarchs will see to it that no primaries are won.
Here's a nice Tancredo site. That photo of him with the shotgun says it all.

Tom Tancredo for President

51 posted on 11/28/2005 11:28:58 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: conservativecorner
"From a caregiver standpoint, it would break the very oaths that they are required to take and really believe in."

You apparently missed this: ...accountable to the citizen first and the illegal alien only in emergency cases.

Their oaths are to protect life - I understand that. No one has suggested turning away anyone in a life-threatening emergency, certainly not I. However if YOU, as a caregiver, expect taxpayers to reimburse you for expenditures incurred in critical OR non-critical cases on the illegal alien's behalf, you ought be held responsible for the funds you request.

If the taxpayer foots the bill, you who "spend" the money ought be held accountable. The medical profession certainly has no ethical hesitation of increasing costs on the insured or paying patients/clients to cover failures to pay - taxpayers as paying clients ought be afforded the luxury of seeing just where their money goes and what they're paying for.

There are countless instances where "non-critical" cases are classified as "emergency" just so those would be paid by the taxpayer. By requiring - no, demanding - full accounting transparency, some of that would cease or be less likely to occur.

52 posted on 11/28/2005 11:58:43 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: conservativecorner

No one is suggesting to turn them away in an life threatening situation. Just patch them up, stabilize them and send them back to a Mexican hospital so their taxpayers can foot the rest of the bill.


53 posted on 11/28/2005 12:01:01 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Czar; Borax Queen
The Bush administration, which for 5 years now has done absolutely nothing to curb the flow of illegal aliens into this country, has decided it's time to do something about it. For quite some time now their solution has been to do nothing....except propose an amnesty disguised as a guest worker program. Nobody wants to talk about deporting those that break the laws of the United States and sneak into this country. To send them back might cost Republicans the Hispanic vote, and we can't have that.

Haven't read the article yet; generally speaking, I like Boortz...though I don't agree with EVERYTHING he ever says/thinks; still, I do think he usually hits the nail on the head, and anticipate this article will do just that. Hence my ping.

54 posted on 11/28/2005 12:03:52 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: antisocial
"Fat chance- 60% or more of them are democrats."

That is why it is imperative we end this insanity this election cycle. After another 4 years of open borders, another 5 million Illegals, we will be outnumbered-we already are in many areas-and it will be over for Conservatives.

55 posted on 11/28/2005 12:09:15 PM PST by moehoward
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To: conservativecorner
The Prez has thrown conservatives a "bone".. Except its not a bone only a hand drawn picture of a bone.. a two dimensional teaseing.. i.e "chew" on THIS.. if you must..

And hes not even embarassed..

56 posted on 11/28/2005 12:25:36 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: nicmarlo

I will read it. Thanks for the ping.


57 posted on 11/28/2005 12:35:28 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: r9etb

Maybe the Border Patrol or ICE or DHS. One of those agencies that are supposed to stop illegals.


58 posted on 11/28/2005 12:42:13 PM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: SwankyC
Maybe the Border Patrol or ICE or DHS. One of those agencies that are supposed to stop illegals.

So you're going to give them power to audit and scan the SSN status of every employee of every business in the US in the hopes of spotting an illegal among them?

They've already been down this road, Swank, several years ago. The manpower and cost requirements of an active government effort to perform such searches are prohibitive.

The next suggestion was to make employers clear their prospective employees as "legals" prior to hiring them, subject to large fines. Perhaps you recall the hooraw about this proposal -- employers generally wanted no part of it, for a variety of reasons, including liability and a strong desire to not be an arm of law enforcement. (Here we see perhaps an argument of convenience: the folks yelling loudest were probably the ones who benefit most from illegal immigration.)

The heart of the illegal immigration problem is the Americans who are hiring illegals. The solution has to be able to address this fact, in such a way that it's easy for employers to comply, and difficult for employers to bypass.

The answer is probably some combination of Bush's "guest worker registration" idea, tied in with the IRS reporting that any employer must do.

59 posted on 11/28/2005 1:02:03 PM PST by r9etb
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To: SpaceBar
There is really only one logical explanation for the state of things. It is by design.

You bet it is! We're being sold out under the guise of "globalization" which will erase any borders we once had. Goodbye sovereignty! GWBush's Amerika.

60 posted on 11/28/2005 1:20:07 PM PST by janetgreen
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