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CRACKING DOWN ON ILLEGALS? [Prez Bush And His Amnesty Program Equals Do Nothing]
Neal Boortz ^ | Nov. 28, 2005 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/28/2005 7:29:40 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: conservativecorner

In 1985 my father was a carpenter building houses in the Houston area, he made $15 an hour. In 2005 with all the illegals the wages for a carpenter 20 years later are about $15 an hour. Illegals are used by companies to lower wages for all workers in the US.



21 posted on 11/28/2005 8:24:26 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: conservativecorner
For quite some time now their solution has been to do nothing....except propose an amnesty disguised as a guest worker program.

Absolutely false. The Bush administration has done more than nothing.

Bush's own appointed Social Security Administrator, in June 2004, signed a Totalization Agreement with Mexico that will, among other things, allow:


22 posted on 11/28/2005 8:44:51 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: poorjerk
1.Deport all illegals in mass and show Mexico this country is NOT to be abused.

Uh huh. And now please tell us how you intend to separate the legals from the illegals.

23 posted on 11/28/2005 8:48:35 AM PST by r9etb
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To: TXBSAFH
Illegals are used by companies to lower wages for all workers in the US.

Put another way, US companies are paying people to cross the border illegally. Funny how nobody seems willing to punish US business owners....

24 posted on 11/28/2005 8:50:17 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Bush's own appointed Social Security Administrator, in June 2004, signed a Totalization Agreement with Mexico

I remember that day well. There was one of those Bush day-in-photos threads and I made a wise crack involving an industrial size tub of Vaseline. Needless to say, my remark didn't go over well.
25 posted on 11/28/2005 8:51:50 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: poorjerk
Its easier that that.
By Executive Order, any employer identified hiring anyone here illegally will be fined $1M/day/person.
26 posted on 11/28/2005 8:52:49 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
I just made a donation based on the Murtha arse kicking by the Republican Leadership in the House. No more unless I see more of this type of leadership from the House. The trick will be to see who gets what in campaign help in the coming mid-term election. If they support liberals, like the NRSC did with Chafee to the tune of $200,000 against a Republican Conservative in the Primary, I will never give them another dime. The Main Street Republicans can kiss my arse, and I pray that each and every one of the jackasses is booted starting with Charlie "the big mouth" Bass.
27 posted on 11/28/2005 8:57:19 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Oh. My. God. That is obscene.

That's it. That's crazy. We need to bear down on this like a ton of bricks NOW.

I seldom do a full-scale barrage (LTTEs, calls to all relevant Congressfolk, email/calls to the WH, etc.)

And just think: I can do all this from the GOP action website: http://gop.com . I encourage all of you to do the same!


28 posted on 11/28/2005 8:59:02 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Zathras

> By Executive Order, any employer identified hiring anyone here illegally will be fined $1M/day/person.

***YESSSSSSS!!!!***


29 posted on 11/28/2005 9:00:19 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: r9etb
If I had my druthers there would be raids starting with construction and meat packing industries. If a company is found to be using illegals they would be deported and the company fined heavily. But if this was shown to be in multiple sites for this company then they would be charges under the RICO act for conspiracy to evade labor laws and lower wages. Their CEO, management, and board would be pursued with the full vigor of the law and the assets of this company would be seized and sold.

You would not have to do this to often before the illegals would not be able to find work.
30 posted on 11/28/2005 9:00:56 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: VictoryGal

I probably won't vote for a rat or stay home, though now that I come to think of it someone who pretends to be conservative to the point of calling themselves republican and then turns coat is a bigger rat than someone who at least admits they're a democrat. But I'm not a big money giver to politicians, what a waste. If I think I can help swing a race maybe, but I'm not just going to put largesse into the Republicans' or anybody else's campaign slush funds.

I'll support Culberson (he's my DUDE!) Delay rewrote the districts and got rid of the diabolical liberal Chris Bell, and we got Culberson in his place so I'm going to be tossing some silver at Delay. He needs our support. I supported Thune and helped get rid of "Puff" Dashchle. I gave Cornyn money, for which I'm kind of sorry, but there was a radical dim running against him and it was kind of close.

I'm more inclined to support primary challengers right now. Would be interested in hearing about any good ones.


31 posted on 11/28/2005 9:06:41 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror? We can still lose this war.)
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To: TXBSAFH
You would not have to do this to often before the illegals would not be able to find work.

And thus would not head north in the first place. But hey -- somehow it's Not Our Fault.

32 posted on 11/28/2005 9:09:11 AM PST by r9etb
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To: TXBSAFH

Have you been wondering for the last five years just what the Justice Department does besides prosecuting Martha Stewart, and now Scooter Libby? I have.


33 posted on 11/28/2005 9:10:11 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror? We can still lose this war.)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
The illegals and their effect on this country's economy is as devastating as another terrorist attack. The justice dept. is doing what Jorge (Rockefeller Republican) Arbusto wants of them, nothing. If they did their jobs heaven forbid wages might go up. (SARCASM OFF)
34 posted on 11/28/2005 9:13:08 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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35 posted on 11/28/2005 9:28:18 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: conservativecorner
To send them back might cost Republicans the Hispanic vote, and we can't have that.

I daresay it ain't the Hispanic vote (a surprisingly large number of Hispanic citizens think the US policy on the interlopers is too lax) but the rich white biz vote. The people who actually profit off of these folks.

36 posted on 11/28/2005 9:33:06 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: gubamyster


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37 posted on 11/28/2005 9:33:41 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: conservativecorner
The Bush administration, which for 5 years now has done absolutely nothing to curb the flow of illegal aliens into this country, has decided it's time to do something about it.


"Tell me lies, tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies."

38 posted on 11/28/2005 9:35:43 AM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: conservativecorner

1) I am in favor of the United States government securing America's citizens and believe the most immediate and effective method to accomplish this is by restricting the flow of illegal aliens into the U.S. by the construction of a continuous 24 ft high linear border barrier structure topped with razor wire and to reduce or end the attraction of felon employers by assessing them disabling fines and/or penalties. An additional benefit of such a linear border structure would be to restrict the movement of illegal drugs into the United States from Central America thereby reducing the annual federal expense of drug interdiction.

2) I am in favor of the Fourteenth Amendment being redefined - even if at individual state levels - to clarify that to qualify for birthright citizenship of the United States, a child must have been born of or adopted by a citizen or legal resident of the United States and that at least one parent or legal guardian must have to verify their citizenship or legal status before a birth certificate is issued by any agency. Any child born in the US not of a citizen or legal resident shall be issued a certificate of birth with non-citizen status clearly marked so that birth may not be used to complicate deportations of illegal aliens. I am also for rejecting of and the nullification of any certificates of marriage issued in the United States to any person who is not or was not legally admitted into the United States prior to the certificate's issuance or the application thereof. Persons who marry in other countries and whose non-citizen spouses wish to immigrate into the U.S. must follow current applicable immigration protocol.

3) I'm in favor of developing and implementing a scannable social security card system containing embedded digital information and images which can be electronically compared via network to that of national databases which would help reduce fraud, and the linking of those card ID's to state DMV licenses and state voter registrations. By making the SSI cards scannable and verifiable online, many excuses felon employers and illegal employees now use to circumvent U.S. immigration code would be reduced or eliminated as well as helping eliminate claims of ignorance which complicate successful prosecutions. This system would also help reduce incidents of identity theft, thus providing consumers added security from those with malicious intent as well as adding valuable security in the information off shoring trends taking place where consumers' personal and financial information is being distributed among entities in countries not subject to U.S. courts' jurisdiction.

4) After such ID is implemented, I believe our government should set a firm date whereby all employers will have had to verify and swear out an affidavit to the legal status of all their employees and after that cut-off date, those still intent, charged with, and found guilty of the felony of hiring illegal aliens would be fined $50,000 for each violation of the perjured affidavit or a minimum sixty percent of their annual net revenue. After that date, the government should allow enforcement of our immigration code to the letter and insist on apprehensions by any and all appropriate law enforcement authorities and should tie local governments' receiving federal monies to enforcement compliance. I believe it has become necessary we implement a system of bounties for information leading to both the apprehension and successful conviction of those felons and for the detainment and deportation of illegal aliens. Those states' Attorneys General should be given enforcement capabilities and allowed enforcement discretions within their respective states without hindrances from courts of law obstructing their enforcement duties.

5) I am in favor of taxpayer funded programs which are currently misused to pay able bodied people to not work to either cease to do so through more strict controls, be reduced so as to be considered as supplemental levels only, or be phased out totally. I would propose any agricultural related employer who is found guilty of employing illegal aliens should immediately cease the right to employ persons under the Federal agricultural minimum wage for five years, the standard minimum wage rates would apply for the duration of that term.

6) In order to augment #2, I would push for a mandate that no one but a parent or legal guardian who is a legal U.S. citizen and has contributed to the Social Security trust fund for a minimum of twenty consecutive quarters may apply for taxpayer funded benefits or services on behalf of minor children. Legal immigrants are currently restricted by law from receiving taxpayer funded benefits for a minimum twenty quarters or five years so this requirement is in keeping with applying a measure of fairness for all and may help reduce the attraction of "anchor babies" as a means to circumvent and complicate U.S. immigration code and its enforcement. This measure would also require at least five years of prior gainful and legal employment of any recipient and show proof of their contributions to the Social Security trust fund.

7) I'm in favor of removing immunities for all organizations which knowingly aid and abet illegal and fraudulent activity related to illegal immigration and in favor of aggressively seeking their demise should they insist on continuing to undermine U.S. law. These, by their very nature, are seeking to undermine established U.S. law and deserve prosecution to the fullest extent.

8) I'm in favor of establishing a Federal reimbursement system whereby monetary exchanges or transfers with countries whose illegal citizens "borrow" our taxpayer funded services are assessed, invoices prepared, and duties or taxes levied in percentage proportion by nationality of illegals apprehended as reported annually by our nation's Border Patrol.

9) I'm in favor of hospitals and health care providers being required to disclose publicly, in print, and upon demand, the names of all non-citizens/indigents receiving any medical care which is billed to or paid for by taxpayers along with the costs of those services billed or be penalized by losing reimbursements for any payments due to be paid from taxpayer funds. All hospitals and health care providers should be held openly accountable for how they spend or use public funds and accountable to the citizen first and the illegal alien only in emergency cases.

10) I am FOR the citizens of these United States to remain a sovereign nation and people, rejecting any outside influence of the United Nations into the laws of and upon the internal affairs of the American people. Cooperation from a position of strength is the foremost bargaining chip the USA should bring to the UN's table.

Without a step-by-step, yet comprehensive plan in place to deal with illegal aliens and the issues associated with unchecked entries into the United States, anything less is a futile effort.


39 posted on 11/28/2005 9:38:00 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: r9etb

SSN


40 posted on 11/28/2005 9:38:56 AM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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