Thomas Klocek-Lecturer sacked for having an argument with students in the cafeteria about Israel?

Engage ^ | October 31, 2005 | Denis MacEoin

[Land_of_Lincoln_John]

This was sent to me just yesterday. Oh, Father Dennis Holtschneider is the president at DePaul. He can be reached at dholtsch@depaul.edu

[ncountylee]

Another IslamoPuke victory at the expense of the truth.

[bigsigh]

I tried to put this in several context with different issues and liberal and conservative. Don't know why this is an actionable offense. Sounds like a good public exchange and no harm no foul. I guess he was in a zero tolerance zone.

[LA Conservative]

It sounds like DePaul is as tolerant as any Muslim or Left-wing organization.

[sit-rep]

Susanne Dumbleton

How can I do better than this??

[MarkL]

Typical of a university. Back in 1988, I was at SUNY @ Stony Brook, and staring and laughter could be "actionable."

Mark

[alice_in_bubbaland]

Oh dear, another "adjunct professor" problem. Let's get moving! Maybe we'll get the same results as with the Warren County Community College "adjunct professor" problem....er....bigmouth libidiot.

[Labyrinthos]

The ACLU has said not one word on the matter.

Why would it or should it? The ACLU generally gets involved on the wrong side of Constitutional disputes. This a private dispute between a non-tenured professor at a private college. The Constitution is not at issue.

[SteveMcKing]

Bunch of non-players who think their little opinions matter.

These are not leaders, they are the powerless egomaniacs who hide in academia. Professors and students too.

All they say and think is utterly inconsequential, despite their passionate melodrama.

[dennisw]

Muhammadanism is an insult to humanity. Who is nutty enough to take the words of a 7th century psycho killer for divine revelations? The mind boggles

[logic]

This is an old story, I remeber reading it some time ago when it actually happened, but...

'No one should ever use the role of teacher to demean the ideas of others or insist on the absoluteness of an opinion, much less press erroneous assertions.'

I see no indication he even mentioned he was a teacher, he was just discussing how distorted their propoganda was, as I would have, had I been there...

There is also no indication he was demeaning the ideas of anyone, he was pointing out how distorted the information they were presenting was, no indication he thought they actually believed the drivel they were selling.....

And finally, using facts to show the incorrectness of propoganda is nowhere near the equivilant of 'insist(ing) on the absoluteness of an opinion, much less press(ing) erroneous assertions.'

I will be sending an e-mail to father Dennis soon....

[Anti-Bubba182]

"The ACLU has said not one word on the matter. "

And they won't either. They stand for civil rights only when it suits their larger left wing agenda.

[narby]

Finkelstein, Finkelstein... Hummm. Isn't he the guy that's been having a long running fued with some famous lawyer. I'm thinking the lawyer worked for Clinton, or was one of Clinton's defenders on the talking head shows. Recently wrote a book praising Israel, that Finkelstein attacked. Seems like 9/11 he's been more conservative. Neo-con maybe.

Who was this????

[Land_of_Lincoln_John]

It's an ongoing story, as DePaul goes on as if nothing has happened, and Klocek's lawsuit against DePaul slowly progresses through the Cook County court system.

[rbg81]

So now it's Catholic schools touting the Muslim line too. Interesting....

[Land_of_Lincoln_John]

Big cash cow for all private schools as many Muslims pay cash for tuition, as the "DePaul's Jihad against academic freedom" link at the bottom of the post explains.

This fact is not well known outside of academia.

[SJackson]

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[anotherview]

If you're thinking of Dr. Alan Dershowitz of Harvard he is liberal on all issues except foreign policy (as in Israel and the war on terror). Many otherwise liberal Jews are conservative when it comes to Israel and to foreign plocy in general.

[It's me]

Did you read the article?
Do you think he should have been be fired?

[alice_in_bubbaland]

Sorry about that, busy decorating the house for Christmas AND trying to cook dinner! (I guess I'm not too good at multi, multi tasking.....) Please forgive me.