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Sometimes, a Tax Cut for the Wealthy Can Hurt the Wealthy
New York Times ^ | November 24, 2005 | ROBERT H. FRANK

Posted on 11/24/2005 11:05:58 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway
First line...False premise

WHEN market forces cause income inequality to grow,

41 posted on 11/24/2005 2:47:28 PM PST by tubebender (Why is it we never have time to visit family when they are alive but can always make their funerals)
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To: nickcarraway

My B.S. Detector is all lit up.


42 posted on 11/24/2005 4:24:55 PM PST by Waco
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To: D Rider
"the wealthy continue to consume"

Many libs don't get the connection between the rich spending their dough and other people making money because the rich spend their dough. If I'm not mistaken huge mansions are usually built by human workers. Those workers have to be paid. Libs refuse to acknowledge that most criticism of the rich is simply envy. Even though average Americans benefit from what the rich buy and build.

43 posted on 11/24/2005 5:47:12 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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The rich consume in a different way -- mostly benefiting the "artisan class." Having several friends that work in artisan trades and once being somewhat affiliated with it, I can tell you that these are prime years. That is to say, there are a lot of $60,000 desks, $200,000 paintings and $500,000 pieces of jewelry being sold. How good this is for the economy is questionable.


44 posted on 11/24/2005 5:55:08 PM PST by durasell
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To: driftless
Libs refuse to acknowledge that most criticism of the rich is simply envy. Even though average Americans benefit from what the rich buy and build.

Yep! Like I always have said, let me have a shot at the money they spend and I'LL PAY THE TAXES!

If the rich save their money, I borrow it at lower rates. If the rich invest their money, I get a better job from their investment dollars. If they spend it on consumer goods, I get to make it or sell it to them.

45 posted on 11/24/2005 8:04:55 PM PST by D Rider
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To: nickcarraway

No surprise that the NY Times gives this lunatic a forum.


46 posted on 11/24/2005 8:13:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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A careful reading of the evidence suggests that even the wealthy have been made worse off, on balance, by recent tax cuts.

If it is true that "Sometimes, a Tax Cut for the Wealthy Can Hurt the Wealthy", would the NY Times not be in favor of them?

47 posted on 11/25/2005 1:29:24 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Mase
I just love it when anyone refers to the CBO as nonpartisan...

Kind of like when the NYT decides that we've forgotten that Kerry served in Vietnam. 

In a sense, the CBO actually is nonpartisan.  After all, the CBO is 230 beltway PhD's who are being paid to justify congressional spending regardless of party affiliation.   I guess the beltway does weird things to people's thinking.  Anyone's thinking, and why not?  Hell, if they paid me say, $10 billion, I'd be willing to 'prove' that 2+2=5 and I'd even believe it enough to pass a lie detector test.

[sigh]   Don't I wish.

48 posted on 11/25/2005 8:29:32 AM PST by expat_panama
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Hehheh

As they say, it's good work...if you can get it.

49 posted on 11/25/2005 8:34:54 AM PST by Mase
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To: pawdoggie
If it is true that "Sometimes, a Tax Cut for the Wealthy Can Hurt the Wealthy", would the NY Times not be in favor of them?

That's right!!! Cut those taxes 'til the wealthy scream in pain!!!

50 posted on 11/25/2005 8:48:07 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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would the NY Times not be in favor of them?   

That's right!!! Cut those taxes 'til the wealthy scream in pain!!!

 

 

NO, NOOOOO, do anything ya want but jes' don't trowww me into another tax-cut!!!!

51 posted on 11/25/2005 9:21:58 AM PST by expat_panama
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"artisan"

The rich still buy land and build houses and whatever. That land and those houses and whatever are developed and built by working men and women who make good money off what the rich buy and build.

52 posted on 11/25/2005 1:07:57 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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Yes, but there are limited houses that need building. That said, I have a friend who makes a good six figures here in New York doing renovation. It's the kind of job where they send him to Italy to pick out the marble for a bathroom renovation that may cost sixty or eighty thousand. Wood is also a big thing. Another friend works for a high end furniture manufacturer and they can't hire people fast enough, at any price. They've taken to bringing guys over from Europe who know about rare woods, stains, and other manufacturing techniques.

These are great, well paying jobs, but there isn't enough of them to boost the economy nor the expertise to support those that exist.


53 posted on 11/25/2005 1:13:54 PM PST by durasell
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I guess we first have to talk about who are the rich. If they're people making from one hundred to two hundred thousand clams a year like libs believe the rich class starts at, then many average income people prosper from those "rich" people. Housing developments around the Twin Cities area, which is the closest big metro area to me, are exploding. Even into Wisconsin where I live because the well-off need space outside the environs of the Twin Cities. If you mean the superrich, the multi-millionaires and beyond, then I can't argue because I don't know any superrich people and what they buy.


54 posted on 11/25/2005 1:30:32 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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Ha! We differed in definitions of the rich. Honest mistake.

The people buying the services and products from some of my friends probably have net worths of $10 mil and up. And there are more of them in NYC than you'd think. The problem with them -- economically - is that they spend their money inefficiently (to benefit the economy).

The people making a couple of hundred thousand a year in salary are solidly middleclass. And yes, I've seen the explosions of metro areas in other parts of the country, like Vegas and DC.


55 posted on 11/25/2005 2:15:20 PM PST by durasell
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