Is Homosexuality Genetic or an Evil Force that Plays Mind Games with People?

AkeGreen.org ^ | July 20, 2003 | Ake Green

[scripter]

Apparently you took the hint. The Admin Moderator told you to "knock it off" the last time you didn't take the hint.

I'm sorry if you don't like it when I post what you've previously said.

Go ahead and point out anything you consider propaganda, and no, it doesn't have to be on this thread. Since you just mentioned "two research studies," why don't you start there?

[William Terrell]

The problem is much wider than the circumstances surrounding one person that you may know. A typhoid carrier may be a sweet individual and his plight may tug at your heart strings.

[William Terrell]

They may be gay, but not homosexual. 2500 generations to weed out a homosexual gene. Go figure.

The entire paradigm of physical mammalian life on Earth argues against it. It's psychological.

[chalkfarmer]

ditto

[little jeremiah]

He's already spent some time in jail.

[joesbucks]

EVERY homosexual I have ever known has a similar trait in their background. A dominant mother in the household and a weak or absent father.

I've seen it more related to traumatic abuse, usually sexual, but also physical or mental. In either case, I wonder if either situation pertains to Maya Keyes?

[Twist_T]

a common trait is that they were all sexually abused as kids. and now have stockholm syndrome

[little jeremiah]

There's another aspect to people become homosexual. Recruitment - seduction by an older homosexual. Very frequent among homosexuals. Not saying it happened in the case you mentioned. Also, consider rebellion. Many teenagers rebel against their upbringing, sometimes seriously, sometimes mild. But if the rebellion includes sexual experimentation with the "gay" life - and then acceptance of the lie that "if you've had one gay experience, you're gay forever and ever" - that could chart a path in life such as hers.

I hope that she takes advantage of reparative therapy and her she and her family are reconciled.

[Savage Beast]

I don't know whether bisexuals have a choice or not. I am heterosexual, and I know that I do not have a choice about that.

[gidget7]

""I don't hate you; don't flatter yourself. I despise the propaganda and crusade you have taken against homosexuals under the guise of fighting an agenda.""

Scripter and Little Jeremiah are tow of the most valued member of FR, who have heart of gold, and more compassion than they know what to do with, and so is Jim Robinson. To assault the character of any of them, is cowardly, and lacks integrity as well as any semblance of manners..

If you despise what is said on these threads, why to bother posting on them? There is no need. Is it any wonder you have been banned so many times. You might be again!

[bigsigh]

I don';t hate them. I hate their tatics and lack of honor when shown to be wrong. As far as Jim Robinson that's between me and him. scripter keeps bringing that up because he wants JR to get rid of me. Many others have agreed with me, but have grown impatient or even left.

I am one of the few that will stand up to their zealotry. If you think they're valuable, then that's your problem.

[bigsigh]

We did that dance two years ago. I have told you I won't go back. You know what happened and your denials are a sign of either bad memory or lack of ethics.

I will not knock off telling the truth. Admin Moderator or not.

[bigsigh]

BTW it's time for you to hit the abuse button isn't it? It's the only way you can "win."

[bigsigh]

For the record, you have not contributed anything positive to the discussion here. You have attacked me, posted old information, and tried to get sympathy for being a victim. You added nothing to the discussion. The facts are that you will not be admonished by the administrator. Mainly because I won't hit the abuse button. I can stand on my own argument. And the readers can see through you.

[x]

I say that it would be a disservice to refer to the Bible as the most reliable science textbook. It is simply the most reliable book ever written. 600 years ago the finest scientists in the world would have told you that all available empirical evidence would show that the world was flat.

But do theologians and Bible readers have a better record? There's evidence that the most learned scientists of Columbus's day knew that the earth was in fact round. Two centuries after his voyage, clergymen were still burning witches because of what it said in the Bible. Catholics and Protestants were killing each other about the same time, because their interpretations of the Bible differed.

60 years ago the finest scientists would have said that according to all empirical evidence, that it was ludicrous to predict that men would be walking on the moon 25 years later. But, of course, today's scientists are different. They really know how to use empirical evidence. This time, scientists really have it figured out. Is that it?

At least some of the errors of past generations can be attributed to the "if God had meant man to build flying machines, there's be something about it in the Bible" sentiment.

I don't want to get into a science vs. the Bible debate. Science -- however we define it -- has made a lot of mistakes over time and has crimes on its conscience as well. It would be best for people not to lose sight of moral concerns and not to rely entirely on what they take to be science, but it works the other way, too.

Secular learning isn't something to be scorned. If someone writes about navigation or aviation or genetics relying wholly on quotes from the Bible it's an indication to me that they aren't using all the information at hand, and that their arguments may not be the best grounded in the facts.

[Jorge]

I don't agree that homosexuality is a detestable sin. :)

Well a lot of people don't believe stealing is a sin and can rationalize all sorts of behavior as OK, because they don't consider the Bible an authority on what's right or wrong.

In any case I most people, even children can see that homosexuality is biologically unnatural and a perversion of the male female design for sexuality. It's way too obvious.

[Jorge]

.... but the real deal is you hate homosexuals and want them to go away, because of your religious beliefs, supposedly christian.

Don't you believe it's possible for people to hold moral convictions that certain behaviors are right or wrong without hating people personally?

Most of us who are honest know that we are not perfect and do things that are wrong in God's eyes, and to say the homosexuality, adultery, dishonesty or slander are wrong doesn't mean we hate people and want them dead.

[scripter]

You're up to your same old tactics of claiming I'm posting propaganda and then running away. You mentioned two studies but then you won't even provide any specifics for that either. What, specifically, is the propaganda I've posted?

I asked you to provide specific examples here as well and you never did.

Here you are apparently proud to misrepresent everything I say.

Here you said "All of my comments on this thread are personal attacks upon scripter".

I'll save your comments on this thread as well.

[scripter]

BTW it's time for you to hit the abuse button isn't it? It's the only way you can "win."

Funny thing is, I don't hit the abuse button on you. Apparently other people hit the abuse button when you attack my character.

[scripter]

For the record, you have not contributed anything positive to the discussion here.

Others here have stated otherwise.

You have attacked me, posted old information, and tried to get sympathy for being a victim.

I didn't realize that pointing out what you've previously said is attacking you. And if you don't like that then perhaps you should be more careful with what you post.