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Nepal's 'tyrant' king isolated by Maoist deal
Telegraph.co.uk ^
| 11/23/2005
| Thomas Bell
Posted on 11/22/2005 11:44:21 PM PST by sagar
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I personally believe that it is highly unlikely that king would be stripped of his powers. After all, he controls the military and the military has always been loyal to the monarch. I think this deal means the violent commies would quit killing people. But, I fear that their ideology will become mainstream as they enter politics.
Either way, the Maoists seem to get a piece of the pie, despite having being defeated militarily. If the King is given only 2 or 3 more months, the military would have wiped these vermin out.
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posted on
11/22/2005 11:44:22 PM PST
by
sagar
To: little jeremiah; Gengis Khan; Srirangan; CarrotAndStick; injin; Tailgunner Joe; ...
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posted on
11/22/2005 11:47:32 PM PST
by
sagar
To: sagar
What I'd like to know is, what does the Indian government want to happen?
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posted on
11/22/2005 11:47:56 PM PST
by
billybudd
To: billybudd
"what does the Indian government want to happen?"
Of course, they would want the king gone and seek corrupt socialists(or downright commies) controlling Kathmandu. They always have been uneasy towards Nepalese monarch... back then it was British India company that saw the king as menace, and, now, the governing parties in India.
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posted on
11/23/2005 12:10:33 AM PST
by
sagar
To: sagar
So the communists have promised to become democrats? Not exactly a 'great big giant step', to use the terminology of a game that was popular in my childhood.
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posted on
11/23/2005 12:33:32 AM PST
by
KarinG1
(Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
To: KarinG1
Democrats, commies, what's the difference? ;D
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posted on
11/23/2005 12:45:32 AM PST
by
sagar
To: sagar
I have always thought that it is time to really put it out there in a way that gets through to even the most backwards
village Nepali , what a hideous thing Maoism has always turned out to be wherever it has gotten entrenched .
Nepalese translated versions of The Killing Fields might be effective. But then again , it might give them 'ideas' !
If the masses of cadre can be made to see what charlatans
their leadership really is , maybe they'd all walk?
Granted the King is a jerk and his son is even worse.
Thanks to Dipendra the Nepalese royalty has wandered into the lost realms.
I fear no good end to any of this...especially with a bunch of corrupted and suspect UN'er's invited to be present.
We can guess what the hardened Maoist lady cadre will think
of the fond and ardent attentions of the so-called UN Peacekeepers (read : sex fiends and pedophiles)
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posted on
11/23/2005 12:56:14 AM PST
by
injin
To: sagar; billybudd; KarinG1; injin
The King is a "pro-China" dictator, he doesn't care about democracy, and in fact doesn't want democracy. He just wants to keep the maoists tensions alive so that he can prolong his dictatorship using that as an excuse.
If the Maoists want to surrender and join the mainstreame and also stand for elections then there is no reason not to given them a chance. This time the King has no excuses he must make way for democracy if he is really as sincere about his intentions (which I obviously doubt) as he would have the world believe.
There has been enough bloodbath in Nepal already and as long as the King enjoys China's support he will simply continue the bloodbath and use make use every oppurtunity (such as the Maoists threat) to actually eliminate all his political oppositions even those genuine ones who have nothing to do with the Maoists but is simply oppossed to the dictatorship.
To: sagar
Communists are going to become Democrats, at least their consistent.
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posted on
11/23/2005 2:57:16 AM PST
by
Americanexpat
(A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
To: Gengis Khan
My comment was only intended as a good natured jab at democrats. I am, of course, every bit as appalled at the innocent blood spilled by the communists as the next extremely attractive chick. Perhaps even more so.
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posted on
11/23/2005 3:44:34 AM PST
by
KarinG1
(Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
To: sagar
From article:
Nepal's Maoist rebels entered a pact with opposition politicians yesterday in a move to isolate King Gyanendra, who seized full power nine months ago. From 11//05/05: Nepal political parties deny having alliance with Maoists
From 11/20/05: Nepal Maoists ready to surrender under UN supervision
KATHMANDU: Nepal's Maoist rebels, spearheading a decade-old insurgency, have agreed to lay down arms under UN supervision and support the movement launched by an alliance of seven political parties to limit King Gyanendra's role as a titular head, highly placed sources said on Saturday
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posted on
11/23/2005 4:19:41 AM PST
by
Alia
To: Gengis Khan
It would seem to me that there is more than enough corruption to go around and it isn't all to be found in the King's palace. While the calls for democracy always sound fine, I seriously doubt the alliance of these seven, essentially socialist, parties will usher in a new era of participatory democracy for the people. A corrupt government, in a nation used to corruption and under pressure from both superpower neighbors will hardly be given the space and peace that democracy will need to grow.
Nothing good will ever come of the Maoists being given a seat at the table - ever.
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posted on
11/23/2005 5:17:10 AM PST
by
WorkingClassFilth
(The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
To: Gengis Khan
If the king is pro-China then India is pro-Maoist.
To: sagar
This is a disaster. The UN will help the terrorists as they do in Israel. The king should keep the UN out of Nepal and destroy the Maoists with help from anyone who will give it.
To: WorkingClassFilth
I seriously doubt the alliance of these seven, essentially socialist, parties will usher in a new era of participatory democracy for the people.Of course they would usher in a genocidal red dictatorship.
"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Adams
Put these democRATS in charge and they will end up follow the path of the Weimar republic or Kerensky's provisional government.
To: Tailgunner Joe
"If the king is pro-China then India is pro-Maoist."
Wrong. India is pro-Democracy.
To: Tailgunner Joe
"Of course they would usher in a genocidal red dictatorship."
Dictatorship under the King or under the reds, either way its going to be a genocidal one.
""Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Adams"
Democracies are more resilient then you think. Democracies never lost a war.
To: WorkingClassFilth
It would seem to me that there is more than enough corruption to go around and it isn't all to be found in the King's palace. While the calls for democracy always sound fine, I seriously doubt the alliance of these seven, essentially socialist, parties will usher in a new era of participatory democracy for the people. A corrupt government, in a nation used to corruption and under pressure from both superpower neighbors will hardly be given the space and peace that democracy will need to grow.
Nothing good will ever come of the Maoists being given a seat at the table - ever.
The whole idea about having a democracy is that people choose for themselves what they want. Be it a socialist alliance or anything else the choice is for them to make.The Nepalese people cannot be denied democracy for the fear that they may not makethe right choice. If the Nepalese people make the wrong choice its is this business and their right to correct it. If the Maoists can be give a seat at the table, it can also be taken away.
Only a democracy allows you to dump your government anytime you want. The calls for democracy isnt just some nice sounding bunch of clichés and there is no such as a "suitable time and place" for democracy. In neighbouring India, democracy continues to grow inspite of corruption and billions of other problems.
To: Gengis Khan
India is pro-DemocracyUh-huh. Just like the Maoists are.
To: Tailgunner Joe
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