Recent Summit of the Americas a Success, U.S. Official Says (taxpayers will be stuck money)

U.S. State Department ^ | 16 Nov 2005 | USINFO

[1rudeboy]

U.S. socialist subsidies are good, unless they benefit big socialist transnationals in which case they are bad, unless the socialist WTO opposes them in which case they are good, unless the socialist WTO approves them in which case they are bad, unless other socialist countries dislike them in which case they are good, unless the U.S. reduces them which is bad in any case, and unpatriotic.

[I'm trying to delineate hedgetrimmer's argument on this thread].

[Mase]

Social justice and equal justice are NOT the same.

It's deja vu all over again, hedge. All of a sudden I'm back on planet hedgetrimmer where the meaning of words is whatever you say it is. Forget all previously accepted definitions. In your alternative universe, government-minded, market-extolling conservatives are traitors while those who love government and disdain markets are the real "conservatives".

Your world is a highly conflicted place driven by emotion and paranoia instead of facts and the only thing consistent is your inconsistency. That you sidle up to the bar with the likes of Castro and Chavez, and work tirelessly to carry their water, seems lost on you. Baffling.

[Mase]

[I'm trying to delineate hedgetrimmer's argument on this thread].

Excellent summation! Trying to sort out her "logic" is draining and gives me a headache.

[hedgetrimmer]

the UN and WTO cannot force us to do anything that Congress does not approve.

They do all the time.

In this example, horticultural exporters are blocked from exporting their product by a subsidiary organization to the UN.

Concerning pesticide registration, Shawn Stevenson, chairman of the CFBF Trade Advisory Committee, noted that the Codex Alimentarius Commission-created in 1963 by the United Nations to develop food standards and guidelines-has a backlog to register new chemicals that is "creating a real problem for the U.S. and Canada and countries that have been very progressive in finding new chemical tools that are less damaging to the environment, that are very specific and pose dramatically decreased worker health and safety issues. While we are making great progress along these lines, the fact that Codex can't get tolerances for these things set until years and years down the line is putting a lot of our commodities at risk, especially in the specialty and horticulture sector."

Congress, by the way, did not vote for this.

[hedgetrimmer]

Yeah, we wouldn't want to give them the opportunity to grow anything besides coca.

What a creepy thing to say. And it proves that to you subsidies are fine as long as they put Americans out of business and prop up corrupt foreign governments.

[hedgetrimmer]

U.S. socialist subsidies are good Funny, thats what YOU said about the WTO "green box" subsidies paid to farmers.

[hedgetrimmer]

Whose logic?

[1rudeboy]

I did? Where?

[hedgetrimmer]

U.S. socialist subsidies domestic policies decided by constituents and congressmen are closer to representative government than the WTO required "green box" conservation payments. These payments are the result of international socialists who set up the system. These payments deprive property owners of their right to use their property as they see fit. Americans see this and abhor it, global socialists defend it. You clearly are on the socialist side of the fence.

the socialist WTO You've finally got it right!

[1rudeboy]

I did? Where?