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Merry Christmas is NOT Offensive—Jews Should Protect Religious Freedom for Everyone
Toward Tradition (email) ^ | Nov. 22, 2005 | Daniel Lapin

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:36:12 AM PST by Alouette

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To: Great Caesars Ghost

Welcome to the Church! There are some parishes and places where, sadly, being divorced is more a badge of honor than being single; however, there are lots of parishes and places that hold with what has always been taught, and Benedict XVI has shown he's on the side of Catholicism and not rad-lib-revisionism.


41 posted on 11/22/2005 12:14:28 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Alouette
"The ACLU is just as aggressive in going after Chabad menorahs as they are in attacking the nativity displays."

Yet another reason why we need to support each other.
42 posted on 11/22/2005 12:29:18 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

I'm in the process of clearing up clutter before Advent ... this is quite a process, as I am rather short and extremely pregnant. We don't have Christmas until December 25!


43 posted on 11/22/2005 12:47:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (Advent starts November 27 ... have you dusted yet?)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Well, the Church is also closing up lots of parishes. It's SRO every weekend where I go. I hope that's not because they close popular parishes as well as the underattended ones.


44 posted on 11/22/2005 1:50:39 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror? We can still lose this war.)
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To: Alouette
All Excellent Points--both on the article and the posts from everyone.

I agree that Judaism and Christianity can and should coexist with reverence in our society. The bedrock of our rule of law, our societal and governmental structures, and traditional morality all were designed with Judeo-Christian thought in mind. Meaning that the very core of our country draws on principles from both Judaism and Christianity.

But then again, there's radio stations in metro Milwaukee playing not just Christmas music, but throwing religious Christmas carols into their playlists, even if they're instrumental. Albeit though, some do sound rather strange--one even sounds like Disco...

Despite this, I'm actually surprised the ACLU cronies here in WI haven't charged these stations with the usual Establishment Clause violations.

45 posted on 11/22/2005 2:05:32 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Liberalism: The world's singular leading cause of truth decay...)
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To: Alouette
The reason that menorahs are permitted on public property while chr*stmas symbols are forbidden is because secularism regards only the majority religion as "religion." Minority religions, even fundamentalist ones, are considered signs, barometers, and protective fences of secularity. Yes, that's stupid, but it's the way people think.

I don't defend chr*stmas in an absolute sense (since I believe G-d doesn't approve of it), but this has nothing with the current secularist crusade that seeks to make allies of non-chr*stians. Unfortunately, while this is done for the reason stated above devout chr*stians will take it as confirming that they are the true religion (hence "the only target of the forces of evil") and that's certainly not going to do American Jews any good.

I'm not 100% okay with Orthodox rabbis defending chr*stianity and chr*stmas when they should be making Noachides of chr*stians, but I understand where they're coming from.

Being a Noachide means being "the turd in the punchbowl" of American religion.

46 posted on 11/22/2005 2:29:41 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'emin BeHaShem, vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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I am disturbed by the creeping neglect of a wonderful, inclusive holiday Thanksgiving.

Stores take down the displays from "Halloween" (a revel which should be discontinued) and immediately put up the displays for Christmas, mainly because the only shopping done for Thanksgiving is for food.


47 posted on 11/22/2005 2:44:28 PM PST by Alouette (Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum (thanx: Pettigru).)
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48 posted on 11/22/2005 2:49:49 PM PST by tioga
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To: Alouette

Happy Thankgiving and a Merry Christmas amd a Merry Channukah, and a Happy New Year to all. Keep up the good work.


49 posted on 11/22/2005 2:50:15 PM PST by Warlord David
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To: i_dont_chat
Try this.
50 posted on 11/22/2005 3:06:46 PM PST by tioga
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To: Alouette

Excellent point. I think Halloween is dumb, and it's extremely irritating that "Christmas," with its attendant political complaining every year, starts in the first week of November. Veterans' Day and Thanksgiving deserve more emphasis, especially since both are about being American, irrespective of one's religion.


51 posted on 11/22/2005 3:19:49 PM PST by Tax-chick (Advent starts November 27 ... have you dusted yet?)
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To: Alouette

This guy is always on the money. If he had a shul near me, I would go.


52 posted on 11/22/2005 3:22:45 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Alouette

Well said, Alouette, especially about Halloween being a revel which should be discontinued! Nailed it!


53 posted on 11/23/2005 5:30:04 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: excalibur1701

In our area, the Knights of Columbus sponsor such billboards expressing either 'put Christ back into Christmas', or 'Jesus is the Reason for the Season.' Both express the same basic message.

Both messages make me proud to be a member of the KofC.


54 posted on 11/25/2005 10:22:23 AM PST by OriginalChristian (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Alouette

God bless Rabbi Daniel Lappin...a good man.

Thank you for posting this excellent article.


55 posted on 12/02/2005 4:17:41 PM PST by milford421
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To: red irish

"I have read stories of the Moslems over in Europe hurting the Jews."

True...

"There is a strong connection between Christians and the Jews, and we must stick together."

Absolutely correct. Pope John Paul reminded us both of our mutual connections. Christians see the Jewish people as our older brothers and sisters....we must stick together definitely.


56 posted on 12/02/2005 4:22:18 PM PST by milford421
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