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Merry Christmas is NOT Offensive—Jews Should Protect Religious Freedom for Everyone
Toward Tradition (email) ^ | Nov. 22, 2005 | Daniel Lapin

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:36:12 AM PST by Alouette

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To: Alouette

Any Brooklynites on this thread? Can anyone explain why we have a huge menorah at the entrance to Prospect Park but no nativity scene or the equivalent anywhere -- at least not the I'm aware of. Please understand, I have no problem with the menorah and nightly candle-lighting ceremonies. I wouldn't want to see equality by subtraction.


21 posted on 11/22/2005 8:44:22 AM PST by joylyn
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To: All
I posted this once before, but it's worth repeating.

On my way into work yesterday, I saw a Billboard that said "Put Christ back in Christmas", and it was sponsored by Mikes Carwash. They just made a life time customer out of me.
22 posted on 11/22/2005 9:00:09 AM PST by excalibur1701
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To: NYer; Alouette

I think there is room in America to celebrate both Christmas and Channukah in public. What really bugs me is the way they treat Christmas and Christianity in the public schools. If they really wanted to celebrate "diversity", they'd include honest discussion about all religions, not just Islam.

Btw, I went with my bf to his nephew's bar mitzvah, this weekend. It was a beautiful service, but a little intimidating to meet his entire family all at once. They're great people, and the reception was wonderful. We're going to his sister's home for Thanksgiving.


23 posted on 11/22/2005 9:15:55 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Nachum

What's the matter? No Ramalamadingdong?


24 posted on 11/22/2005 9:17:21 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette

Merry Christmas Everyone!!!


25 posted on 11/22/2005 9:20:33 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He's done more for our country than we will ever know. He's the man!)
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To: Alouette
Rabbi Daniel Lapin, an Orthodox Rabbi in Seattle, Washington

Boy. Talk about working in the Lion's Den.

26 posted on 11/22/2005 9:38:46 AM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Tax-chick
"I don't want to hear "Merry Christmas" in the first half of November, thanks very much. Nor in the first half of December ... I think there would be much less conflict about "Christmas" if it hadn't taken over two whole months of the year."


27 posted on 11/22/2005 9:43:44 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Piranha
"In my opinion, the best thing to do to give Christmas its original, religious, meaning, would be to give it back to the church and de-emphasize it in the American cultural calendar, where it means nothing more than sales, football games and time off from work for most Americans."



Nailed it! Quite honestly, the only thing about this whole season that I like or has any meaning for me is Christmas Eve Mass or Christmas Day Mass; the original religious meaning and intent of the holiday. I honestly could do without everything else. What with all they hype, hoopla, crowds, etc, once Halloween comes, I keep hoping January 2 will hurry up!
28 posted on 11/22/2005 9:51:11 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Alouette

Thanks for posting this, Alouette. Everytime I read an article by Rabbi Lapin, the more I like him and the more I respect him! I'll use what very little Yiddish I know and say that he is a geunine, for-real mensch of the first order. May the Lord bless him real good.


29 posted on 11/22/2005 9:55:07 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Soon we can wish you a Merry Christmas! ;)


30 posted on 11/22/2005 9:55:08 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: joylyn
Can anyone explain why we have a huge menorah at the entrance to Prospect Park
but no nativity scene or the equivalent anywhere -- at least not the I'm aware of.


IIRC, radio-show host Michael Medved encountered a similar situation
during a winter trip to Boston.
He was in a large (public?) office building and there was a large Menorah in
the lobby, but the place had been sanitized as far as Christmas-associated
items were concerned.

(I'm not knocking the Menorah display...just the decisions of
major poobahs to scrub any Christmas display from the commons.)
31 posted on 11/22/2005 9:55:45 AM PST by VOA
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To: Alouette

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32 posted on 11/22/2005 9:55:49 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)- "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: Alexander Rubin

:) And we can wish you a Happy Hannukah! Just promise not to tell Foxman! Shhhhhhhhh!


33 posted on 11/22/2005 10:31:12 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: Alouette

MERRY CHRISTMAS . MERRY CHRISTMAS . MERRY CHRISTMAS .


34 posted on 11/22/2005 10:48:33 AM PST by goldcrest
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Absolutely. I have read stories of the Moslems over in Europe hurting the Jews. There is a strong connection between Christians and the Jews, and we must stick together.


35 posted on 11/22/2005 10:51:08 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Alouette

What ever happened to the good old days when the Jewish merchants would dance around their cash registers on Christmas and sing "What A Friend We Have In Jesus?"

(That is just supposed to be mildly amusing and not to cast any sort of aspersions on any sort of perceptions people may have as to anyones spending or saving habits)


36 posted on 11/22/2005 11:17:32 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror? We can still lose this war.)
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To: joylyn
Can anyone explain why we have a huge menorah at the entrance to Prospect Park but no nativity scene or the equivalent anywhere

The menorahs are put up by Chabad, a Jewish religious organization.

If a Christian group wants to put up a nativity display, they should go ahead and do it.

The ACLU is just as aggressive in going after Chabad menorahs as they are in attacking the nativity displays.

37 posted on 11/22/2005 11:25:27 AM PST by Alouette (Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum (thanx: Pettigru).)
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To: Piranha

I didn't have Jewish friends until I was about 9-10, but then the addition of Hannukah just made the holiday milieu more rich and complex and fun. How come when multi-culti is forced, things just become more bitter and mean and antagonistic?


38 posted on 11/22/2005 11:48:04 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror? We can still lose this war.)
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To: Piranha

I think that if American business is determined to deny the significance of Christmas in the holidays, then it is very much appropriate for the "Christmas People" to deny the businesses the commercial benefits of the holidays.

There is far too much retail in this country, and most of it survives on the holiday season. I'd like to see a serious effort among christians to de-emphasize the commercial gift giving at this time of year. Also to de-emphasize the ritual gluttony and drunkenness. Sure, nobody wants to give up their fun, but what an opportunity to defund the groups that keep screwing us every chance they get.

It's unhealthy for mind, body, and soul anyway.


39 posted on 11/22/2005 11:52:48 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror? We can still lose this war.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

I'm not out of the woods until they finish making me feel like a freak on Feb. 14.

(That's why I'm and RCIA Candidate, I want to be a member of a church where it's not a badge of honor to be divorced as opposed to single.)


40 posted on 11/22/2005 11:56:14 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Who says we're going to win the War On Terror? We can still lose this war.)
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