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Ford Set to Trim 4000 Jobs
yahoo.news ^ | (2005-11-21) | by Joseph Szczesny

Posted on 11/22/2005 6:53:42 AM PST by Fawn

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1 posted on 11/22/2005 6:53:44 AM PST by Fawn
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To: Fawn
Ride it like a Ford......
2 posted on 11/22/2005 6:55:19 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: Fawn

Does anyone here believe that the domestic auto industry collapse WON'T lead to recession? I'd love to hear an analysis as to why this isn't bad for all of us?


3 posted on 11/22/2005 7:16:34 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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Had either of these companies been able to consistently put out products that were competitive with the Japanese and Euros over the last couple of decades they wouldn't be trouble. Most people would all factors being even by American. But their are fewer who would buy American when it means buying a distinctly inferior car with pathetic resale value.


4 posted on 11/22/2005 7:18:32 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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Well...I'm happy about one thing. I know they won't all be moving to Florida.....no one can afford to buy a home down here anymore....average price for an average family home is $400,000.


5 posted on 11/22/2005 7:19:08 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: SmoothTalker

Sorry to say that I am one of those people who will not buy an American made car.


6 posted on 11/22/2005 7:20:20 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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Nothing wrong with American-made cars, there are a lot of good ones, e.g. Toyotas, Hondas, etc.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 7:21:49 AM PST by thoughtomator (Hindsight is 20/20, or in the case of Democrats, totally blind)
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...Phil Martens, the head of product development, and Mary Anne Wright, head of Ford hybrid-vehicle program, have left the company...

Looks as if they are on the same track as a lot of companies. They lay off their engineers, designers and research people and keep the accountants, lawyers and clerks. Then a few years later they wonder why they don't have the new products to compete.

Unfortunately the US auto companies for years operated almost like government agencies. As long as the unions were quiet they didn't worry about cost because they could always raise prices or cut down on quality. They still haven't learned to compete with foreign companies.

8 posted on 11/22/2005 7:22:45 AM PST by FreePaul
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"no one can afford to buy a home down here anymore....average price for an average family home is $400,000."

And that's a good thing?


9 posted on 11/22/2005 7:25:34 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan

Well...since I'm sick of people moving here....yep. To me, it's a good thing....


10 posted on 11/22/2005 7:26:16 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: Fawn
I tend to wonder if the safety/tree hugger Nazis have gotten there way. Consider what a car would cost without the array of airbag/pollution control device/5 mph bumpers/dole light and all of the other go slowers that the do gooders have convinced the gov'mnt that we can't live without.
11 posted on 11/22/2005 7:28:05 AM PST by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: Fawn

Ford is on the top of the list that discriminates against white males and christians. Their so called "diversity" policies actively pursue discrimination based soley on personal traits vice merit, character and intelligence. I wouldnt buy anything from Ford because of this. And yeah I know the others do it as well but Ford is the worst.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 7:28:22 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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After my experience with my last one (Chevy Z71 pickup), and the experiences my wife and I have had with our Accord, our Corolla, and our beat up old T100, neither will I.


13 posted on 11/22/2005 7:28:46 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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"Well...since I'm sick of people moving here....yep. To me, it's a good thing...."

Well, it's good to see that you're not self centered and worried about your fellow man. Fits perfectly with the upcoming season.


14 posted on 11/22/2005 7:34:47 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: FreePaul
they could always raise prices or cut down on quality

If you can believe the latest quality studies, GM is number 3 in the quality rankings, after Toyota and Honda. It doesn't appear that they are cutting quality. I hate GM, but it does appear that they are at least keeping up in the QA battles.

15 posted on 11/22/2005 7:37:06 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: Fawn

Hey Walmart - if you listen to the Unions goons, this will be you in a few years. Ford has Unions, GM has Unions, and both are going under.


16 posted on 11/22/2005 7:39:10 AM PST by GOPJ (The costs of launching an attack on America is high - antiwar dems are working to change that)
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To: SmoothTalker

They could have if not for the unions. Unions alone are responsible for the impending bankrupcies. Unions have become parasites that are destroying their hosts.
If not for unions, a new pickup would probably cost about $10,000 and would be well made.


17 posted on 11/22/2005 7:46:28 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Hardastarboard
If GM is ranked high in quality now that's a good thing for them. Maybe they can keep it up. Quality used to cycle with the need for quantity and cost reduction. I hope it doesn't now.

A relative who works for a GM dealer tells horror stories about their quality and the way they deal with problems. I'm sure that if I knew people with other dealers I'd be afraid to drive any vehicle.

18 posted on 11/22/2005 7:48:21 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: brownsfan
I hope the people can find some affordable housing where you live....because I care.

....I'm stuck where I live because of this unbelievablke boom....I can't afford to move so I'm not happy about the high priced homes at all.....I can't wait for it to bust. But, I'm sick of everyone and their families moving here too. We have 800 people a day moving to FLorida....and that doesn't include the illegals.

19 posted on 11/22/2005 7:55:21 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: Hardastarboard
GM has improved reliability. The problem is some of the designs in recent years haven't been competitive at all with cars made by other companies. They don't even come close to what the Euros and Japs are selling in terms of refinement and road manners and they depreciate like mad. These are cars that GM has sold in the US in the last year. The Astro Van dates to 1986. The Cavilier to about 1996.
20 posted on 11/22/2005 7:59:37 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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