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Prosecutors Say Pa. Girl Wasn't Kidnapped
Associated Press ^ | Monday, November 21, 2005 | MARK SCOLFORO

Posted on 11/21/2005 4:23:43 PM PST by Peace4EarthNow

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To: Peace4EarthNow

How old do youths have to be to be prosecuted as an accessory after the fact?

Chilling what this generation of creeps is able to do without any conscience.


81 posted on 11/21/2005 6:19:03 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: hershey

Hershey, read on. She didn't have to leave with him at all--she ran after his car when he started to leave without her.


82 posted on 11/21/2005 6:19:27 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

At 14 you think that your 3 month school vacation is a long time. I have shirts older than this stupid child."

Shirts??? I raise you a whole closet full of things that are as much as 30 years old +. Lots of very old racing t-shirts.


83 posted on 11/21/2005 6:20:12 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Krankor

One is OK, but 2 is too much?
I don't get your reasoning.


84 posted on 11/21/2005 6:22:26 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: hershey
She could have, apparently, escaped as they drove cross country if she were a victim.

There are mutliple gas station security cameras, apparently, that record parts of the trip.

She had, apparently, various opportunities to escape or call the police if she thought that she was a victim.

The weeks to come will be instructive as to her visual appearances in front of these many camera hours after her parents were killed.

Her sisters and brothers are now orphans,too.

It will be instructive to note the siblings eye witness reports on her actions, if any, during the double murders.
85 posted on 11/21/2005 6:24:34 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Peace4EarthNow
She's going to claim she was the victim of his undo influences, the prosecutors are going to go for lesser charges against her (or the jury will do it for them) and she'll be out of prison before she's 30, if that long.

Meanwhile, he fries, if he lives that long.

The only glimmer of hope is that perhaps parents will be less likely to accept their barely teenagers going out with adults.
86 posted on 11/21/2005 6:32:14 PM PST by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: LucyT

The one thing that's really apparent is that she left her parents to die without lifting a finger to help them. If those braces on her teeth aren't completely paid for, her remaining family members might not feel like footing the bill.


87 posted on 11/21/2005 6:34:13 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: kingu
She's going to claim she was the victim of his undo influences, the prosecutors are going to go for lesser charges against her (or the jury will do it for them) and she'll be out of prison before she's 30, if that long.

Judge Napolitano said on tv tonight she'll be out in two years, regardless of her involvement. (because of her age)

88 posted on 11/21/2005 6:35:47 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Dr. Jonathan (that's me) says that she suffered from severe mental shock, and both realizing and repressing the guilt from being a cause of her parent's death, she attempted to run away from reality, attempt to alleviate that guilt, go back in time, and escape from the bodies and horror she left behind. (Correspondence school)


89 posted on 11/21/2005 6:39:36 PM PST by BagelFace
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To: Peace4EarthNow

Sadly, this is what I expected.


90 posted on 11/21/2005 6:41:41 PM PST by FourPeas ("You'll never find a better sparring partner than adversity." Golda Meir)
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To: dead

I knew you were making a joke. ;9)


The worst thing I can remember doing at 14 is signing my mothers name to a low scoring test paper.

This story is beyond tragic and it has just gotten worse.


91 posted on 11/21/2005 6:41:50 PM PST by Ditter
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To: FourPeas
Little lizzie(KARA) Borden will plead that she deserves mercy because she is an ORPHAN. Oh, booo hoo.

She needs to do jail time.

92 posted on 11/21/2005 6:49:19 PM PST by Lion in Winter (The older I get the more I want to see TEEN CRIMINALS TO GO TO PRISON.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Judge Napolitano said on tv tonight she'll be out in two years, regardless of her involvement. (because of her age)

I sincerely doubt that she'll be out before she's 18; prosecutors, now that they have disputed the concept of her being a kidnap victim, will find every rule to bend that they can.
93 posted on 11/21/2005 6:52:00 PM PST by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: lady lawyer

I agree. I did stupid things at fourteen, but running off with a murderer wasn't one of them.


94 posted on 11/21/2005 6:54:39 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: BagelFace

Pretty impressive theory, but what about the plain old "bad seed" theory? This is one scary girl who practically stepped over her dying father on the way out the door.


95 posted on 11/21/2005 6:58:48 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: CindyDawg

Another ping


96 posted on 11/21/2005 7:05:16 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: cookiedough

"But on the surface, the Borden family seems like a closely-knit loving family. I wonder if that's true. Is there more to the story than simply that Kara and Ludwig are evil? "

The sad thing is that no matter how a good a family some kids are raised in....some of them turn out like this.

The lesson learned here? Nip it in the bud as soon as the creepy older boyfriend shows interest.
Take away computer access. Take away phone priveleges.
Set up motion detector lights outside her bedroom.
Sign the kid up for activities - any activity - that doesn't involve him.

But even then...you always have to be one step ahead of the kids - and kids can be such sneaky buzzards!


97 posted on 11/21/2005 7:07:06 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Thanks. It's getting hard to keep up.


98 posted on 11/21/2005 7:11:15 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: cookiedough

""Ludwig told detectives that after the killings, he couldn't find Kara Borden. He started to drive away and saw her running down the road toward him.

She got in the car and said she wanted to "get as far away as possible, get married, and start a new life," Ludwig told detectives." "

I'm sure - once Kara's family learn of this part of the story...they'll be real glad she was present for her parents' funeral - and that she will actually inherit money from them.
If life were fair - her share of the estate would go to her siblings.


99 posted on 11/21/2005 7:14:22 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: MizSterious
I read somewhere that the younger sister said the boyfriend ran thru the house calling for her.
100 posted on 11/21/2005 7:15:43 PM PST by CindyDawg
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