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Stem-Cell Scientist Admits Paying Women for Eggs
Sci-Tech Today ^ | November 21, 2005

Posted on 11/21/2005 1:26:08 PM PST by hocndoc

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If you'll lie about small things, what will you do for the bigger issues?

Supposedly this doctor bought oocytes (eggs) from women for $1400 US, and then donated them to the veterinarian, Hwang.

And don't bother to look for much of a fuss about this story in the old media: they're too busy figuring out who outed Wilson (the wife, not the editorialist).

1 posted on 11/21/2005 1:26:09 PM PST by hocndoc
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To: neverdem; Mr. Silverback; Coleus; MHGinTN; cpforlife.org

Ping!

Hey! would this count as torture and demeaning treatment?


2 posted on 11/21/2005 1:27:55 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: hocndoc

This is no big deal. I buy my eggs at Krogers.


3 posted on 11/21/2005 1:31:29 PM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: hocndoc
I don't see the problem here. Or at least, I don't see the additional problem.
4 posted on 11/21/2005 1:32:49 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: hocndoc
In April, the National Academies of the United States recommended against
payments for human eggs beyond expenses incurred by the donors.


"Ethics" according to The National Academy of Sciences:

1. Brand anyone with the slightest misgiving about embryonic stem cell
research as a right-wing Christian fundamentalist knuckle-dragger.

2. Get the eggs for free.

VOA's further comment...some of these researchers need to get a tutorial
in supply/demand.
How on earth can they expect to be flooded with egg donors willing
to subject themselves to the unpleasant side-effects of injected hormones
when only paying $0 to maybe $2,000 for their trouble...
...when university newspapers have adverts from childless couples
offering maybe $10,000 to $50,000 for an egg.
(well, provided the donor is the right color and has a good resume'!)
6 posted on 11/21/2005 1:38:12 PM PST by VOA
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"The doctor said he paid 1.5 million won, or $1,440, per woman.'

Life is cheap!

There has been absolutely NO SUCCESS or PROMISE with EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS. The success and promise IS with ADULT STEM CELLS and CORD BLOOD. Still they destroy human eggs.


7 posted on 11/21/2005 1:49:38 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: hocndoc

The problem isn't the fact that they are compensating women for the eggs. It's harvesting stem cells from embryos that is sick.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 1:50:26 PM PST by conservatrice
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To: Howston Born
Nice try there. If you know anything at all about stem cells, you know the media obfuscates the issue. There are ADULT stem cells and there EMBRYONIC Stem cells. One harms no one; the other creates a life and then destroys it.
9 posted on 11/21/2005 1:50:40 PM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: hocndoc

I wonder what she gets on her eggs?


10 posted on 11/21/2005 1:51:01 PM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: hocndoc

After paying for them I really DOUBT that he "donated" them to someone else. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck ... . I guarantee you he SOLD them and made a nifty profit - of course to purchase other eggs in the name of "science".


11 posted on 11/21/2005 1:51:39 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Khepera

The incredible, edible egg.


12 posted on 11/21/2005 1:52:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Khepera

All this talk about eggs is just making me hungry.


14 posted on 11/21/2005 1:54:25 PM PST by Recovering Hermit
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To: Howston Born

Adult stemm cells have shown promise and more. They are currently being uses in treating 60 or more diseases or conditions. They have been used to treat liver damage, diabetes, and have even helped restore vision.

Embryonic stem cells, so far, have shown high risks for mutations and tumors.

Ultimately, the debate depends on where one places value on life. If one views life in a materialistic, the ends jusftify the means fashion, then embryonic stem cell usage poses no moral dilemma. If a person feels that a human life is not a game to be created and destroyed at a whim, then adult stem cells provide the only ethical path.

http://www.stemcellresearch.org


16 posted on 11/21/2005 2:09:47 PM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: Howston Born
any conservative should know that more restrictions equal inefficiency.

So I'm not conservative because I believe restrictions should be placed on terminating life?

How odd.

17 posted on 11/21/2005 2:20:35 PM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: Howston Born
The only "restrictions" worth mentioning, at least in the U.S., are on Federal government funding. Very conservative, imo.

(Your Constitutional authorization to fund any type of medical research was ... ?)

18 posted on 11/21/2005 2:51:11 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: two134711; Howston Born
There are ADULT stem cells and there EMBRYONIC Stem cells. One harms no one; the other creates a life and then destroys it.

The dividing line between adult and embryonic stem cells is faint and getting fainter every day. The great promise of adult cells is when they can be turned into embryonic stem cells, and thus coaxed to develop into whatever organ or cell type the patient needs replaced. The resulting organs/cells will be a genetic match for the patient, which would not be the case with embryonic stem cells (unless the nuclei of the embryonic stem cells is replaced with the patient's, which will also be possible very soon). But by the time the adult stem cells have been manipulated to where they can turn into ANY organ/cell type, they will also be at the point where they be turned into ALL organs and cell types, i.e. into a full blown howling, peeing, burping baby which is a genetic clone of the adult patient.

19 posted on 11/21/2005 2:54:03 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Tax-chick

The US has the right idea -- shouldn't be any government funding for this, or any other medical research that isn't directly related to national security or highly contagious diseases (i.e. unusually virulent flu strains, smallpox, bioterrorism) However, this article is about a country where the activity in question -- purchasing donor eggs -- is not permitted even with private money, or for research funded only with private money. I would certainly not support such a restriction in the US. My eggs belong to me, not to the government, and I should be free to whatever I like with them, with or without payment.


20 posted on 11/21/2005 2:58:26 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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