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Home Loans for Illegal Immigrants [no Social Security number? No legal residency? No Problem!]
ABC30.com ^ | November 19, 2005

Posted on 11/20/2005 6:23:27 AM PST by John Jorsett

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I'm nearly speechless about this story. I knew things were bad, but not this bad.
1 posted on 11/20/2005 6:23:29 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

This is called artificially propping up the housing market. 1 out of 5 residents of the Dallas-Ft. Worth metroplex are immigrants. Most are illegals. If they didn't continue flooding the area, the housing market would collapse.


2 posted on 11/20/2005 6:26:10 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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And I cannot even establish a bank account with my SSN. So how do these people get away with it? It would seem to me that the citizens of the United States are being shafted by people who are trying to take over with all these illegal aliens.
3 posted on 11/20/2005 6:26:37 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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Moral of the story.....CRIME DOES PAY!


4 posted on 11/20/2005 6:30:25 AM PST by stopem ( My reality check just bounced.)
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To: John Jorsett

I don't know who Acorn is; but I have heard Citigroup has some problems regarding honesty.


5 posted on 11/20/2005 6:31:47 AM PST by freekitty
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Sweet.............and I can't finance a stick of Juicy Fruit right now..........


6 posted on 11/20/2005 6:36:18 AM PST by Gabz
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I'm nearly speechless about this story. I knew things were bad, but not this bad.

No, this shows just how bad a judge of character of government is.

This guy comes here, works hard, is responsible with his money, pays his bills on time, yet still doesn't get documented while some other character, made legal, is living for free in Federal subsidized housing because he was made a citizen.

Our government should be doing everything it can to get the responsible guy to stay legally while avoiding granting citizenship to the leaches.

Why should someone that works hard and can buy a house still feel like it's a problem to get naturalized? That makes me think the problem is with the government and not him.

I suppose it's kind of like speed limits. Sure, exceeding the limit is breaking the law, but most people do it because the government is so poor at setting reasonable limits.

In this case our government handles naturalization so poorly that otherwise hardworking, responsible people, still don't feel like going through the process.

7 posted on 11/20/2005 6:36:23 AM PST by mc6809e
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This is called artificially propping up the housing market.

No. This is an example of the private sector being a more efficient and better judge of character than the government.

8 posted on 11/20/2005 6:38:13 AM PST by mc6809e
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Hall says the problem goes all the way to the top, and she pins much of the blame on the largest of government institutions, like the FDIC, the IRS and the Social Security Administration

Hope her tax returns are in order. She's just begging for an audit.

9 posted on 11/20/2005 6:38:37 AM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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Overwhelmed by debt? Why pay your bills? Why go through bankruptcy? Why lose your home? Simply dye your hair black, learn Spanish, say "My name Jose Jimenez", get a Matricula Consular, and wipe your credit slate clean! Even buy your own house at a foreclosure auction!


10 posted on 11/20/2005 6:39:32 AM PST by montag813
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"There is a law against aiding and abetting illegal aliens to continue to live in the United States. Issuing a mortgage to an illegal alien is helping him establish himself and remain the United States, which is clearly illegal. It's a
felony,"

A felony is an impeachable offense and Jorge Bush is guilty of aiding and abetting when he refuses to enforce the law. The reason this is happening is because all the crooks see how weak Jorge Bush is and they know he doesn't have the courage to stand up and do the right thing. Bush is a Dud.
11 posted on 11/20/2005 6:40:17 AM PST by PositiveCogins
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Moral of the story.....CRIME DOES PAY!

You miss the point.

The point should be that hard work and responsibility with money are rewarded.

The point is that our immigration system is so screwed up that a mostly good man still feels he has to hide from the government.

The point isn't the crime pays. Hard work pays. Banks don't often lend large sums of money to criminals.

12 posted on 11/20/2005 6:41:08 AM PST by mc6809e
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This is an example of the private sector being a more efficient and better judge of character than the government.

Nope. Mortgage industry is propped up by the government. Like the S&L bailout, they know that the government won't let the house of cards collapse despite shaky lending practices. That is why we're seeing equity loans that are up to 125% of equity based on shoddy appraisals of the real estate's value. Appraisals are designed these days to make more loans as opposed to securing the loans with real equity.

Even with the influx of immigrants (and Hurricana Katrina evacuees), the market is still having a tough time staying at inflated levels. Fort Worth foreclosures last month exceeded for the first time the record set back in the late '80s during the S&L bust.

13 posted on 11/20/2005 6:44:33 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: mc6809e

YOU MISSSED My point
see post 10


14 posted on 11/20/2005 6:46:40 AM PST by stopem ( My reality check just bounced.)
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To: peyton randolph

I will cross Citbank off my stock watch investment list.
Which banks will lend to illegal's?


15 posted on 11/20/2005 6:46:55 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: mc6809e
Banks don't often lend large sums of money to criminals.

Clearly they do. What part of the simple term "illegal immigrant" do you not understand? This guy is, by definition, a criminal by having broken our immigration laws.

17 posted on 11/20/2005 6:51:08 AM PST by Bob
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So - who gets stuck holding the tab when the illegals decide it's time to disappear/get deported (don't hold your breath) or something else happens?

So - there are consumers who have a hard time getting a mortgage - and they are US Citizens, who pay taxes, contribute to society, etc. Yet illegals are getting an express ride through the mortgage process?

Mexico won't have to have a military takeover of the SW US, they can just buy it, with mortgage money put up by US banks...

Wow - the story actually documents an illegal in the US, documents that he committed fraud in trying to obtain a loan with a fake SS#, and now is happily living in the home he bought?

And why the hell isn't the INS knocking on his door?

Oh - I forgot, we have taken a lesson from the French and have already surrendered to Mexico...my bad.


18 posted on 11/20/2005 6:54:59 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: John Jorsett
Instead, it asks for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, or I-TIN. It proves they pay taxes to the IRS.

The ITIN does not prove "they pay taxes to the IRS". It only proves that someone has an ITIN. Do they even ask to see an actual tax return?

Applicants also have to have a bank account,

A Matricula Consular ID gets you one of those.

proof of US residency for two years,

Two years of rent receipts will suffice.

and two years of credit references.

Paid utility bills. (They will waive doing actual credit checks.)

19 posted on 11/20/2005 6:57:42 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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The problem was David's social security number ... it's a fake.

"He gave us good news, saying, 'oh, you have good credit, you've been good on your payments. Sure, we can help you out!,'" he recalls.

How did they check his credit? Did they really mean the true holder of the SS# has good credit and they extended it to "David"?

20 posted on 11/20/2005 6:58:32 AM PST by raybbr
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