Guns Don't Kill People, Other People's Kids, Kill People

11/16/05 | knowseverything

[SittinYonder]

And if that day comes where a kid comes to school with a gun ready to wreak havoc, there is still nothing you can do.

That's why my kids are always toting when they go to school.

[SouthernFreebird]

We can't all stay home and homeschool our kids. The private Christian schools have this problem also. Matter of fact alot of homeschool kids end up dead from the teacher.

[Mamzelle]

A memory from my own childhood in schools--teacher would often ask some boy in the class to lend her his knife to cut some string or open a package. All boys who were boys carried pocketknives. They were tools--it would have been ridiculous and gauche to brandish them as weapons.

The boys took pride in being "prepared" with something useful when it was needed.

How this world has changed.

[carlr]

Lack of parental discipline from day one leads to a lack of concern for reprisal for any action.
Coupled with the aggressiveness that is fostered by this and the victim mentality that is prevalent,extreme incidents result.

[randita]

Good rant. I think Rush still has the best explanation for youth violence that I've heard. His take is that the baby boom generation has carried their "me first", "anything goes", irresponsible attitude into adulthood and their self-absorption leaves them with little time and effort to parent.

[Tinman73]

I come from even a smaller community (a farm). And my folks always checked up on me (it's called parenting (novel concept)) If for any reason I would of taken a weapon to school, I would of had hell to pay before I even left the house. Just imagine having "my rights" violated like that. Why, I should of called the police and had my folks arrested for "illegal search and seizer".

Oh wait.... I couldn't do that then :)

[caver]

Welcome to FR!

Another good reason is lack of disicipline today. Some parents need to beat the crap out their kids at times to make them know who's in charge. If you touch your kid today, you can end up in jail. And the total degradation of society contributes greatly to the problem. And the little jerks know that the most punishment they will get it some time in juvie. Make it 18 years old and your record is clean. What a joke.

[joesnuffy]

In my small Midwestern town we even were allowed to bring our 22 LRs for squirrels and rabbits and deer rifles during deer season into school and store them in our lockers..

The most trouble anyone ever got into was showing off a new rifle to friends...when the teachers would admonish us to put that back in it's case and in our locker..

Teachers back then had a 'natural authority' over us because to sass one back not only invited a smack from the teacher but a far worse one waiting at home when dad got home from work.

Our high school, junior highs, and even grade schools always had good sized men teachers..many WWII or Korea vets teaching in them...and they did not take any crap from kids..nor did they have to.

[texpat72]

A lot of homeschool kids? Please elaborate.

[HEY4QDEMS]

Andrea Yates

[wingnut1971]

I also went to a rural HS circa late 80's. The principal was an avid hunter who had no problem with hunting equipment at school as long as it stayed in car/truck. All he asked was that we let him know what we had. He would also check licenses and quiz us on game laws.

[JimRed]

Matter of fact a lot of homeschool kids end up dead from the teacher.

A lot? Statistics, please.

The point being that yes, it has happened, but my guess is that it is extremely rare. But the media agenda causes coverage to be multiplied considerably.

[Kenton]

Yeah man, nostalgia time... Youngsville Pennsylvania, c. 1958 - I remember walking down main street carrying my .22 rifle, walking into the hardware store, and purchasing ammunition for the gun. And I was 12 years old at the time, but the mere assurance that "my grandpa siad it was ok" was good enough for the store owner.

After all, he knew my grandfather, and I knew he'd mention it to him next time he saw him. And he knew I knew that, so the circle was complete.

And back then, people behaved like this all the time and the circle never broke.

[satchmodog9]

To much daycare mixed with the hip hop gang culture. It reaches all socio economic levels. The further degradation of our society. Thanks again to all the liberals, trash(who think it's cool to be trash) and pop culture followers for dragging us further into the abyss.

[Redleg Duke]

I can identify with this. Growing up in Reedsburg, Wisconsin in the 1950s and then high school in Madision, Wisconsin in the early 1960s, before radicalism, it was just this way. I remember when "West Side Story", the movie, came out. A couple of the guys tried to carry sharpened church keys like in the movie, but the rest of us told them to cut it out or we wouldn't be allowed to carry our jack knives to school, which every kid did.

Today, our kids are desensitized to violence and the liberals in Hollyweird keep the trash coming, providing on-screen role models for violence.

And then blame guns.

[caver]

Oh gosh, yes, the hip hop gang culture is another big one. It amazes me how many white kids listen to that rap stuff. I just don't understand.

[MarkL]

A memory from my own childhood in schools--teacher would often ask some boy in the class to lend her his knife to cut some string or open a package. All boys who were boys carried pocketknives. They were tools--it would have been ridiculous and gauche to brandish them as weapons.

The boys took pride in being "prepared" with something useful when it was needed.

How this world has changed.

When I was in high school, way back in 1975, I was on the school JROTC rifle team, and we had a 50' range in the basement of the school. I used to shoot a .22 Remington 40-XC target rifle that was owned by the JROTC, and kept in a locked bunker at the school.

And I (and probably half the other guys in the school) carried a Buck knife on our belts (well, not me: In my case, I carried a Schrade Uncle Henry "Old Timer"). But this wasn't some rural school district. It was the Kansas City, MO public school district!

Mark

[Cliff Dweller]

Try that today and you'd be face down on the sidewalk so fast it'd make your head spin.

After all only terrorists and gun toting fanatics (other than the police) carry a firearm in public. (/sarc)

[stevio]

Welcome to FR. Good post, you should send it to some newspapers and see if it gets printed.

I grew up in eastern Pennsylvania under similar circumstances. Everybody's father had a couple of guns at home, we used to fight in the street with the thought never crossing our minds to go and get a gun. I used that same argument with the anti-gun Nazis here.