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Did Under Secretary of State Nicholas Burns Commit Perjury Before Senate?
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Posted on 11/14/2005 8:00:59 AM PST by Ezekiel2517

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1 posted on 11/14/2005 8:01:02 AM PST by Ezekiel2517
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If Gotovina is innocent, why is he in hiding as a fugitive?


3 posted on 11/14/2005 8:04:36 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Ezekiel2517

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4 posted on 11/14/2005 8:05:01 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Ezekiel2517

So he is charged with war crimes and a U.S. official thinks he is guilty while his defenders say he is not guilty.

That doesn't make it perjury.


5 posted on 11/14/2005 8:05:30 AM PST by gondramB
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To: Ezekiel2517
Criminalizing politics, it's the Dum dims 2006 plan for America. Except of course for them, then they just outright lie.
6 posted on 11/14/2005 8:06:01 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: expatpat
<> Maybe for the same reason that the U.S. hasn't signed on to the International Criminal Court? Or are you in favor of extradicting Tommy Franks to the ICC in The Hague?
7 posted on 11/14/2005 8:09:03 AM PST by Ezekiel2517
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Seems like these folks have decided that Mr. Burns is guilty of what they charge too!! Hello....I'm not real concerned with any of this if the dude vanished, won't return, and noone can fnd him, how can you say he did not do as charged? If he didn't need to hide and run, then why did he hide and run? I think they have their heads screwed on wrong in this group!


8 posted on 11/14/2005 8:11:06 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: DustyMoment
Thanks for saving me the trouble!



9 posted on 11/14/2005 8:11:49 AM PST by G.Mason (The barbarians are at the gate ... the Democrats and RINO's stand ready to open it for them)
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Maybe for the same reason that the U.S. hasn't signed on to the International Criminal Court? Or are you in favor of extradicting Tommy Franks to the ICC in The Hague?


10 posted on 11/14/2005 8:15:55 AM PST by Ezekiel2517
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To: geezerwheezer

I know I wouldn't cooperate or turn myself in to the ICJ...guilty or not guilty , so I can't condemn him for running. And I do think there sounds like there is merit in the letter's explanation. But I hold no brief for Gotovina one way or the other except I believe in the presumption of innocence.


11 posted on 11/14/2005 8:17:29 AM PST by Roamin53 (World War III started on Bill Clinton's watch....he just wasn't sure which side he was on!)
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To: Ezekiel2517

Burns should be indicted. Anything to trash the weasels in the Department of S**t


12 posted on 11/14/2005 8:18:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: expatpat
If Gotovina is innocent, why is he in hiding as a fugitive?

Because he doesn't want to be dragged before The International Kangaroo Kourt?

I won't get into an argument whether he has committed crimes or not. I'll just point out that there was a three-sided messy war, and I fail to see why the State Department is still supporting the Muslim terrorists as if they were the only angels in the Balkans.

Clinton fought the Kosovo war on the wrong side, on behalf of Greater Albania, and we have been paying a high price for it ever since.

13 posted on 11/14/2005 8:24:43 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I agree the IKK is something to be avoided, but my point was that it's a bit much to claim perjury here when the accused has been indicted and refuses to face his accusers.

Clinton fought the Kosovo war on the wrong side, on behalf of Greater Albania, and we have been paying a high price for it ever since.

We are in full agreement here, but the Serbs weren't the only ones behaving badly, the Croats Nd Albanians were, also.

14 posted on 11/14/2005 8:40:59 AM PST by expatpat
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I am most certainly not in favor of Gen Franks turning himself in to this type of court, and I most certainly think it is a farce of a court anyway. By the same token, who is behind this association based in Chicago and who are they to accuse Mr. Burns of perjury. If its' good for the goose...


15 posted on 11/14/2005 8:56:10 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Ezekiel2517

Dimwits. That's why he didn't claim he was a "convicted war criminal". OJ Simpson wasn't a convicted wife-killer, but I can still say he killed his wife.

I don't know how we get any good people to serve in our country. Every time you are forced to appear before the senate, you risk losing your job and your freedom. I couldn't believe Rafael Palmiero was actually in danger of serving time.

All he did was use some steroids, a perfectly legal substance. How that became a federal government issue is scary. Let baseball throw him out or punish him, but this persecution of people for testimony is getting really dangerous.


16 posted on 11/14/2005 8:58:14 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Saddam Hussein hasnt been convicted yet either, does that mean he's not a despicable creature and guilty of various serious crimes?


17 posted on 11/14/2005 8:58:44 AM PST by Dave S
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Dear Dave, if your own people in the State Department have concluded that Gotovina is not guilty of the crimes for which he is charged, and then you go before the Senate and claim that he is guilty, then you have a problem. To my knowledge, no one in the State Department claims that Saddam is not guilty, so your comparison is off point.


18 posted on 11/14/2005 9:02:00 AM PST by Ezekiel2517
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To: Roamin53

My point is simple..that being, beware of whom you accuse of perjury, the basis of innocence is strong until you are found guilty of it. Mr. Burns expressed his view, and that was all. As far as Clinton's administration and who they supported is another story totally. I'm still not convinced we did any good there in Bosnia, but I do know it is really still a mess of mass proportions-thanks to Clinton's policies and our weak State Department at that time. they left Bush one hell of a mess to clean up, and we are still paying for his (Clinton's) abject failure there.


19 posted on 11/14/2005 9:03:02 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Baynative

Deceiving the Senate has no consequence. It has become common place since they have chosen to prove themselves irrelevant"

It was especially obvious that lying to the Senate was irrelevant (if you were a Dem and the Dems were in control) when a US Treasury official contradicted his own written evidence by saying he lied to his diary.

Any notion that Senate hearings were more than tawdry political shows went out the window when they let him get away with that.


20 posted on 11/14/2005 9:03:49 AM PST by wildbill
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