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Who Is Lying About Iraq? A campaign of distortion aims to discredit the liberation.
Wall St. Journal ^ | Nov. 14, 2005 | NORMAN PODHORETZ

Posted on 11/14/2005 5:45:43 AM PST by conservativecorner

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To: FreedomPoster

Bump - for a most excellent article.


21 posted on 11/14/2005 6:30:35 AM PST by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: FreedomPoster

Bump - for a most excellent article.


22 posted on 11/14/2005 6:30:36 AM PST by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: conservativecorner

This is an excellent summary of the whole sordid mess.

One compact article to send to your liberal friends.


23 posted on 11/14/2005 6:31:19 AM PST by kidd
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I love questioning the liberals about their knowledge of UN Resolution 1441. They don't remember a damned thing about it.

.......so, if your political position is not based on knowledge, it must be based on emotion...right?

24 posted on 11/14/2005 6:33:41 AM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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To: conservativecorner

I printed out Norman's piece in Commentary on this subject, and just started to read it last night.


25 posted on 11/14/2005 6:36:27 AM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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it wouldn't hurt if the Bush administration would have a couple of news conferences each week to remind the public of 9/11; in fact remind the public of the FIRST WTC BOMBING IN 1993.(And because of the incompetence of the Clintoons for eight years; THREE THOUSAND AMERICANS WERE MURDERED ON 9/11/2001.) And to also remind the public of the GOOD THINGS that are happening in Iraq, Afghanistan and the war on terror. Whoever is in charge of PR for the Bush administration needs to be replaced! We are at war and for the 'Rats to make a political football out of this war is outrageous!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


26 posted on 11/14/2005 7:07:48 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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Mort Kondrake said, "The democrats would rather lose the war in Iraq than allow Bush to get the pollitical points from it's success.

You can't get much more partisan, arrogant, or seditious than that!! The DEMS ARE DONE!!


27 posted on 11/14/2005 7:15:09 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: conservativecorner

bump


28 posted on 11/14/2005 7:17:24 AM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: conservativecorner

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29 posted on 11/14/2005 7:22:37 AM PST by VOA
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Can't wait to see it!

Why didn't they do this LAST YEAR!? We'd be mopping the floor with the Democrats instead of the poor public perception we currently have!


30 posted on 11/14/2005 7:25:38 AM PST by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote.)
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scary!


31 posted on 11/14/2005 7:28:31 AM PST by cvq3842
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There's a lot of truth in what you say. Too many people don't bother to educate themselves.

And as far as poll numbers goes, if someone asks "do you like war better than peace," I'm sure peace would poll very high. Duh. But the world is far more complex than that, isn't it? Clinton reminded me of a college student with a high grade point average because he took easy courses. Bush is facing (rather than kicking down the road) several difficult problems, and also faces an active fifth column (and I don't use that term lightly) at home.

What is our future? Do we want the radicals to win in the Middle East? Does the US have the will to prevail?

I sure hope we do.


32 posted on 11/14/2005 7:33:46 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: conservativecorner
I have e-mail a link to the following to some friends:

  Did Bush Lie? Ask Google

33 posted on 11/14/2005 7:41:35 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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Excellent synopsis of the lying campaign of the Dems. It might also be brought out that The First Gulf War never really ended. Under Clinton The Air Force gave and received numerous shots in the No-Fly zone. He also lobbed a couple of missiles into Iraq. These are all acts of war. The only difference is that he didn't have the guts to deal with Iraq properly.


34 posted on 11/14/2005 7:46:17 AM PST by Inwoodian
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I wish in all of this, someone would also include an analysis of the French, Russian, Chinese ... efforts to get sanctions lifted. These were a fear I recognized in the run up to the war. I believe that if we waited much longer there would have been significant open violation of the sanctions. Oil for Food should be viewed as the initial covert root of this lobbying for an end to the sanctions.

DOES ANYONE THINK SADDAM WOULD HAVE STAYED OFF THE WMD BANDWAGON IF THOSE EFFORTS TO END SANCTIONS WERE SUCCESSFUL?


35 posted on 11/14/2005 8:01:00 AM PST by NAVY84
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To: CyberAnt
seditious = treason which is punishable with a death sentence or life in Federal Prison. While I agree with Mort's thoughts, I do think he misses the bigger picture. If these people can allow the defeat of our forces in Iraq, thier treason goes beyond just a hatred for President Bush, though it shouldn't be understated, in that they are ready to turn this country over to the UN, and if you don't believe me, look back at their quotes:

If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People -- Version 3.0
by John Hawkins
Since we haven't found WMD in Iraq, a lot of the anti-war/anti-Bush crowd is saying that the Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Well, if they're going to claim that the Bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent Democrats, who have told the same "lies" since the inspectors pulled out of Iraq in 1998. Here are just a few examples that prove that the Bush administration didn't lie about weapons of mass destruction...

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction." -- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

They welcome the World Court, and they would love for judges to use foreign law in deciding American cases. Look no further than the SCOTUS for this disgracful attack upon our very Constitution.

We should also remember this gem from none other than Bill Clinton in 1998:

Clinton's Feb. 17, 1998 speech on Iraq, where the former prez "guaranteed" that Saddam Hussein would use his weapons of mass destruction.

"Let's imagine the future," Clinton said seven years ago. "What if [Saddam] fails to comply [with U.N. sanctions], and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made?"

Clinton warned: "He will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction.
Mort's right but only by half. When will he face this truth about a once proud Party?
36 posted on 11/14/2005 8:17:48 AM PST by conservativecorner
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Who Is Lying About Iraq? A campaign of distortion aims to discredit the liberation.

Whoa, WTF is going on here? Has everybody's brain turned to mush? The last I knew of Iraq and liberation being used in the same sentence was when Kuwait was liberated from Iraqi invasion.

Did I have a long nap during which time someone invaded Iraq and we have liberated them from the invader? To best of my limited knowledge, all we did was overthrow a local government.

37 posted on 11/14/2005 9:39:02 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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