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Is America above the Geneva Conventions? (Bush bashing alert)
Der Spiegel ^ | November 10, 2005 | Michael Ratner and Sara Miles

Posted on 11/13/2005 5:58:49 AM PST by NCjim

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1 posted on 11/13/2005 5:58:50 AM PST by NCjim
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The only way that this article could be fair, balanced and and inviting to reasoned conclusions would be to run a parallel and contrasting column of Islamofascist actions and pictures of women, children and civilians being beheaded by the servant of Allah.


2 posted on 11/13/2005 6:05:16 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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The idea that torture could be so publicly defensible --

Operative word ... PUBLICLY. Whoever the mastermind are behind all this crap, knew exactly what they were doing.

The United States does not torture, period. If these morons were my employees, I'd be firing them ..... oh wait

3 posted on 11/13/2005 6:08:03 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

That would be nice as a start - then we include the North Vietnamese, Japanese, and a few pics from the hollier than thow Germans.


4 posted on 11/13/2005 6:09:40 AM PST by Mr. Rational (God gave me a brain and expects me to use it)
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Germans lecturing us about the Geneva Convention? Talk about chutzpah!
5 posted on 11/13/2005 6:10:47 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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Thanks for sending us Mohammed Atah, by the way.


6 posted on 11/13/2005 6:11:44 AM PST by Mr. Rational (God gave me a brain and expects me to use it)
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Screw the Geneva Convenmtion, THEY'RE TARGETING CIVILIANS!


7 posted on 11/13/2005 6:12:57 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I agree, but don't hold your breath on that one!


8 posted on 11/13/2005 6:28:51 AM PST by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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Michael Ratner? Ellen's and Steve's brother? Of the family that tried to PC the 9-11 firemen statue? If so, 'nuff said.


9 posted on 11/13/2005 6:31:06 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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BTW, Ratner and company: The Geneva Convention doesn't apply to terrorists, enemy non-combatants, and/or anyone out of uniform.


10 posted on 11/13/2005 6:32:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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BTTT.


11 posted on 11/13/2005 6:44:08 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Under the geneva conventions, any combatant who uses perfidious means or violates the laws of war, even a simple spy acting out of uniform for purposes of stealth, is not a prisoner of war. Prisoner of war status is for legitimate soldiers wearing uniforms that indicate their belligerent status, or in the case of informal militias and irregular forces, carrying their arms openly and making no attempt to feign civilian status. Combatants who violate these forms of conduct are themselves violating the geneva conventions. And are punishable for it.
12 posted on 11/13/2005 6:58:44 AM PST by JasonC
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Isn't it McCain who suggest torture doesn't work ? even though he gave up his ship, squadron etc...because of torture ?


13 posted on 11/13/2005 7:16:45 AM PST by stylin19a
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Are beheadings allowed in the Geneva Convention? Didn't think so.


14 posted on 11/13/2005 7:22:51 AM PST by rbg81
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Most of the so-called "torture" the left is in a tizzy about are used in military training to resist interrogation. However, I don't see the leftists protesting outside military training bases.

Oh, and of course, giving a lapdance is torture, but the leftists don't protest outside their local strip club. And smearing red ink on somebody is torture, but the leftists aren't protesting the local kindergarten's fingerpainting class.

15 posted on 11/13/2005 7:30:57 AM PST by magellan ( by)
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Looking for al-Qaida's signature on the Geneva Conventions...
looking...looking...

Nope, not there. It applies to both sides, or neither side.

16 posted on 11/13/2005 7:30:59 AM PST by 10mm
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"Is America above the Geneva Conventions?"

That may soon be a moot point. There is no longer a USSR, thus any treaties with the USSR are now void. As Islam advances, "Europe" and/or "Geneva" may cease to exist, thus the "Geneva" conventions will also become void.

18 posted on 11/13/2005 9:29:44 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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Are beheadings allowed in the Geneva Convention? Didn't think so.

Funny, I've never heard the Ratners comment on that. Gee, wonder why?

19 posted on 11/13/2005 11:14:14 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Germany must macht Schnell to Jordan. Jordan made some broad wear a suicide bomb on TV, and they will execute her very soon.


20 posted on 11/13/2005 11:17:35 AM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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