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What is the goal of Bush's speech friday
Just plain old me | 11/12/05 | sachem longrifle

Posted on 11/12/2005 3:09:17 PM PST by sachem longrifle

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To: Made in USA

Im just thinking that what would happen if it doesnt work. I know clinton and all the other dems made the same statement long before he was pres. I wish I had a crystal ball. Its pathetic to see the polls say he lied when we know he did not


22 posted on 11/12/2005 3:52:08 PM PST by sachem longrifle (Proud member of the Fond Du Lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: sachem longrifle
Because the dems from goebbelising the reason we took action against saddamn.

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly...it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."
joseph goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

Below is why we took action against saddamn,and the Congress,including the dems,authorized it.

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687, repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949;

Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President "to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677";

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1)," that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and "constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region," and that Congress, "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688";

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to "work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge" posed by Iraq and to "work for the necessary resolutions," while also making clear that "the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable";

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001 or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region;

Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq". SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and

(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.

In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution. (2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS

(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).

(b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law 93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress.

(c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law 102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law 102-1.

23 posted on 11/12/2005 3:54:08 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: mdittmar

Resolution bump


24 posted on 11/12/2005 4:00:18 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Howard Dean would declare DNC victory after winning a game of rock/paper/scissors.)
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To: nmh
I hope it's to set the record straight,and to let public the know the truth,so the President can complete the mission successfully.I truly believe if this administration would talk more directly to the citizens of this nation the Dem's would not have a chance.The truth shall set you free,so stop pandering to the Democrats.Enough being made the fool of.Go out there and fight and fight hard.
25 posted on 11/12/2005 4:13:53 PM PST by patriciamary
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To: nmh
I hope it's to set the record straight,and to let the public know the truth,so the President can complete the mission successfully.I truly believe if this administration would talk more directly to the citizens of this nation the Dem's would not have a chance.The truth shall set you free,so stop pandering to the Democrats.Enough being made the fool of.Go out there and fight and fight hard.
26 posted on 11/12/2005 4:16:21 PM PST by patriciamary
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To: sachem longrifle
Completely off topic...

Wouldn't F&F Weekends be great if they had Julie Banderas, Kiren Chetry, and Michell Maulkin hosting? I know, I probably didn't spell any of their names right.....but what a threesome

27 posted on 11/12/2005 4:18:04 PM PST by NeonKnight (<p>)
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To: sachem longrifle

To at long last remind the liberals that it's the buck not the f*ck that stops at the President's desk. Even Truman was careful to make that point clear to the hard of hearing and afflicted with attention deficit disorder.


28 posted on 11/12/2005 4:25:56 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Global worming could have saved New Orleans if enacted before the worms ate the levees.)
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I truly believe if this administration would talk more directly to the citizens of this nation the Dem's would not have a chance.

Wonderful idea.

Unfortunately, GWB could alert the MSM that he'd like airtime to give a speech on the 42 armed nuclear warheads found in an underground bunker in Baghdad, and the networks would pre-empt the speech in favor of a "Desperate Housewives" rerun, or the equivalent.

Let's face it...any Republican president needs a "Department of PR"...'cause they ain't never going to get "the Clinton Treatment."

29 posted on 11/12/2005 4:37:38 PM PST by daler
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To: sachem longrifle

I believe the Bush Administration stayed with a flawed communications strategy way too long.

They believed the Iraq debate was settled with his election and turned their attention to other issues. His enemies in the opposition party and the MSM continued to hammer on Iraq and portray it as negatively as possible.

The Bush people believe that if they would meet their metrics the positive news would overtake and possibly discredit their critics.

Unfortunately, the strategy did not work because the good news came too slow to counter the overwhelmingly negative news from the MSM.

I think the best strategy for the Bush Admin now is to pick a big fight with the media. The MSM needs to be discredited.

This will be a big fight and only one side will be standing when it's over. High risk strategy.


30 posted on 11/12/2005 4:44:13 PM PST by Patriot from Philly
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Primary reason is to protect this country, our troops, our citizens, and the people of Iraq/Afghanistan/elsewhere from the consequeneces of another 'forced error' (vietnam) by the losers in the MSM and Congress. This is done by telling the Truth, rather than leaving lies to linger unaccounted for.

Secondary considerations may include leverage for domestic legislation and protect/increase majorities in 2006. Though on this last one the Republicans in House and Senate are doing a damn fine job of screwing themselves of staying in Washington for another 2-6 years.


31 posted on 11/12/2005 4:49:26 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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A large portion of Bush's disapproval ratings came from unhappy conservatives who expected smaller government,staunch conservative SCOTUS picks and a stronger voice for the troops in the GWOT. That being said, first and foremost, conservatives are tired of having the majority in both houses of congress, yet still feel that the dems are controlling the agenda. In other words, we want the majority to lead not follow. That's why we fought so hard to elect them!
32 posted on 11/12/2005 4:52:30 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!!!)
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To: sachem longrifle

The speech lasted nearly an hour, some fifty-five or fifty-seven minutes, I heard most of it, but turned my head for a second and missed a part of one piece of it:

Where he is telling how the radical extremists or whatever he called them, is promising a recruit all sorts of good things, and with perfect timing Bush leans forward over the podium and remarks, "I bet they didn't offer to go with him, did they?"


33 posted on 11/12/2005 5:01:49 PM PST by onyx eyes (.... I'd give at least .50 cents to know why ....oh, never mind....)
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To: Randy Larsen

You got that right from this conservative!


34 posted on 11/12/2005 5:21:22 PM PST by Raffus (God Bless the US, the US Troops and Happy Veterans' Day!!!!,)
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To: sachem longrifle

I think someone finally got through to him that the "new tone" and no response to Democrat lies is going to get him impeached or, at best, joining the ranks somewhere between James Buchanan and Jimmuh Carter in worst presidential ratings.


35 posted on 11/12/2005 5:36:23 PM PST by penowa
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To: daler

What I'd like to know is why are the Kurds of Iraq way more media savvy and have much better P.R. than the RNC?


36 posted on 11/12/2005 5:40:18 PM PST by penowa
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To: Patriot from Philly
"I think the best strategy for the Bush Admin now is to pick a big fight with the media. The MSM needs to be discredited.

I don't think Scott McClellan is up to the task.

37 posted on 11/12/2005 5:43:56 PM PST by daler
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To: patriciamary
I spoke to my parents tonight, as I often do ... many in their neighborhood are asking others to sign a petition to have Bush impeached. I kid you not. They've got a list of crap, including that he "lied" about WMD's etc.. even though the Demoncrats thought the same ... and the cumulation of "lies" demands that he be removed from office.

Of course they didn't sign that. It never ceases to amaze me how vindictive Demoncrats are and how STUPID people CHOSE to be.
38 posted on 11/12/2005 8:14:46 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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