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Question : What have we found out regarding torturing of prisoners ? Has it really been known to yield vital and life saving information ? Or do they in general, simply produce false leads ( we get only what we want to hear ) ?
1 posted on 11/11/2005 9:07:06 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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What have we found out regarding torturing of prisoners ? Has it really been known to yield vital and life saving information?

The person being tortured will tell you anything he thinks will stop the pain.

105 posted on 11/11/2005 6:04:19 PM PST by JoeGar
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How about, "It's a military secret!"
119 posted on 11/11/2005 7:01:22 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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No need for torture..
Tie a fishhead to their ankle and make them swim to shore.. -OR- spill their guts..
125 posted on 11/11/2005 7:22:31 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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For what crimes should torure of the non-participants be allowed? Rape? Murder? Jaywalking? Theft? Smoking in a car with a baby on board?


126 posted on 11/11/2005 7:27:23 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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What have we found out regarding torturing of prisoners ? Has it really been known to yield vital and life saving information ?

It probably has, but it won't be publicized. It also depends what is under the rubric of torture. Use of drugs and other mind altering substances? Retribution against loved ones? Pain? The bottom line is it depends on the individual and the methods used. Almost anyone can be broken.

Lenny Bruce had a routine about a man who is brought to a room where he proclaims that he would never betray his country. Then he says (I'm paraphrasing from memory), "What are they doing to that guy over there? Why are they putting that funnel in his ass? What are they doing with that molten lead? They're pouring it in the funnel? The funnel that's in his ass? They're pouring hot lead in his ass? They're giving him a hot lead enema? Okay, I'll tell you anything. I'll tell you about my mother. I'll make up secrets."

I heard a variation where Bruce says that when faced with the hot lead enema, he would make a shoe shine rag out of the American flag.

146 posted on 11/11/2005 8:27:20 PM PST by kabar
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Yeah fine...outlaw torture. Feel good about ourselves that we are suicidally principled. The first real instance of a nuclear bomb ticking in an American city, and the chance to extract the location from a smug terrorist sneering in our kumbuya faces - this law will be chucked out the window, along with the authors.


149 posted on 11/11/2005 8:29:44 PM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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The THREAT of torture is probably more important than actual torture. If we completely outlaw torture, then there is no subsequent threat of torture. Not that I know one thing about torture, but I do know people.


194 posted on 11/11/2005 10:46:04 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Spare the rod, spoil the child.

Inflicting pain on the flesh has it's own rewrds.

At every level.


198 posted on 11/12/2005 4:25:44 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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There is a vast difference between Ho Chi Minh's thugs torturing John McCain just for the sake of torturing him along with their other prisoners,
and American operatives or allies using rough techniques to extract information that will prevent thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of others from being killed.


215 posted on 11/12/2005 6:58:38 PM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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Mitch Rapp uses it to good effect.


217 posted on 11/12/2005 7:33:35 PM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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