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Is Intelligent Design a Bad Scientific Theory or a Non-Scientific Theory?
Tech Central Station ^ | 11/10/2005 | Uriah Kriegel

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:43:24 AM PST by Nicholas Conradin

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To: js1138

It talks to me sometimes and sometimes it lies, too.


701 posted on 11/11/2005 6:09:02 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Check back to post 646


702 posted on 11/11/2005 6:13:46 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: blue-duncan
"You might want to google "Micrsoft Anti Trust" to see how many times it has been sued for anti trust violations and how many settlements it has agreed to with the Justice Department."

This is your argument? The lawsuits against Microsoft were nonsense. They settled because that is how the shakedown goes. They never had a monopoly and forced nobody to buy their product. It's all about how much money you can extort from business. That's the essence of antitrust. Little whiny companies that can't do what Microsoft does want the government to use force so they can get a piece of Microsoft's action. It's not much different then the Mafia.

"As much as you decry Anti Trust legislation I haven't seen you complain about Copyright and Trademark laws that give monopoly status to some or the licensing of communications or zoning or safety regulations in transportation, health care, and food services."

Be specific and give some examples. I can't make a statement for or against without more details. I do agree with copyright and intellectual property rights. I don't agree with zoning laws.

"Self esteem, a cardinal principle of Rand's theory, is based on self pride which is a competitive vice; a negative force in relationships."

Only in a degenerate moral system is self esteem and self pride considered a vice. I feel sorry for people who feel that taking pride in their accomplishments is a sin.


"No, I dislike some of their business practices, but dislike intensly, their lust for power over politics, the markets and people."

As long as they don't initiate force, they should be free to do whatever they wish.
703 posted on 11/11/2005 6:38:20 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"Only in a degenerate moral system is self esteem and self pride considered a vice"

BOINK! (oops, that should be BINGO!)

When you scratch a Creationist, you find a statist. That's why today's Theocracies are practically identical to the old Socialist "Democracies" and why Creationism must be stopped.


704 posted on 11/11/2005 7:20:56 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: highball
Please do not put words in my mouth. It's disrespectful. That is not what I said.

He's been doing that for some time. It's one of the signs of a troll. Not worth responding to.

705 posted on 11/11/2005 7:33:52 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Does he really need a cite for that?

When talking with those who do not condemn slavery, it would seem so.

706 posted on 11/11/2005 7:40:50 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: furball4paws

What about The Bab?


707 posted on 11/11/2005 7:44:57 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Amusing how many so-called Conservatives agree with the Marxists in using physical force to fix economic inequalities.


708 posted on 11/11/2005 7:47:10 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The collective doesn't get to vote away property rights.

I like the way you think.

709 posted on 11/11/2005 7:51:23 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Did not God himself write the words on the tablets of stone?

No. That's all fabricated. if you believe otherwise, produced the tablets.

710 posted on 11/11/2005 8:27:13 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: furball4paws

the koran is no word of god.


711 posted on 11/11/2005 9:31:34 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: blue-duncan

"Whatever rules I make up for myself that I think will give me an advantage in life, I must also allow other people to treat me in the same ways in their dealings with me.

That is only fair,"

And what if you don't follow your rules or what if someone does not want to follow your rules because they conflict with his rules that give him an advantage? How do you determine what's fair? certainly everone does not start out at the same place or level.

Well, how do we resolve such conflicts today? Depending on how serious the conflict is, there are traditions & unwritten rules that guide a resolution, or they may have to resort to the law. A resolution could involve forgiveness, one party deciding to accomodate the other's wishes, one party buying out the other party in some way, both parties deciding to just end their relationship, or one party warns the world via the Internet not to do business with the other party, or one party takes the other party to court, or one party calls up their Attorney General, etc. etc.

IOW, a free & healthy society has developed several types of technologies, so to speak, for dealing with conflicts as peacefully & positively as possible. I'm not sure how believing in God per se is going to make it any more certain that good rules will get developed than bad ones.

712 posted on 11/11/2005 9:45:52 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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To: Thatcherite
So God disapproves of stealing other people's slaves too. Excellent.

Your reading comprehension is atrocious. It says man not slave or servant.

713 posted on 11/11/2005 10:59:20 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: P-Marlowe; Thatcherite
So Joseph doesn't fit into the stealing of man?

Gen 37:26 And Judah said unto his brethren, What profit [is it] if we slay our brother, and conceal his blood?

Gen 37:27 Come, and let us sell him to the Ishmeelites, and let not our hand be upon him; for he [is] our brother [and] our flesh. And his brethren were content.

714 posted on 11/11/2005 11:04:06 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Junior
Fulfilling the law does not mean replacing one Sabbath with another. IOW, Fulfill != Abolish.

Oh really? What does fulfill mean then, in the context of the commandment about the Sabbath?

715 posted on 11/11/2005 11:06:14 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Junior
Jhn 9:16 Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.
716 posted on 11/11/2005 11:09:38 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: xzins

According to Mohammed, his prophet, it is. Can you disprove his contention?

There are 1.5 billion people in the world that agree with him and would shove it down your neck if they had the chance.


717 posted on 11/12/2005 1:10:14 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

OK Doc, ya got me. What's the Bab?


718 posted on 11/12/2005 1:16:29 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: furball4paws; xzins
There are 1.5 billion people in the world that agree with him and would shove it down your neck if they had the chance.

Yeah and there were umpteen billion chinese waving a little red book with the same intent. That doesn't make it the word of God. BTW, the Koran was supposedly revealed to one man over his lifetime. The Bible was revealed to many men over millenia.

719 posted on 11/12/2005 3:48:24 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Nicholas Conradin
In an election in Pennsylvania this week, voters tossed out eight members of the Pittsburgh school board who wanted Intelligent Design theory to be taught alongside evolution in school.

Wow if this guy is so smart, he could at least read a map. The town of Dover is at least 200 miles east of Pittsburgh.

720 posted on 11/12/2005 4:30:20 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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