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Is Intelligent Design a Bad Scientific Theory or a Non-Scientific Theory?
Tech Central Station ^ | 11/10/2005 | Uriah Kriegel

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:43:24 AM PST by Nicholas Conradin

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To: highball; xzins
science isn't outcome-based like PC creationism.

PC Creationism?

PC?

You can call creationism a lot of things, but PC is not one of them. The PC crowd is out to silence any discussion of God in public schools. It is the "evolution only" crowd which is PC.

521 posted on 11/11/2005 5:46:53 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: js1138
I don't see where it says those words were placed on stone tablets.

Look a little deeper. Try reading the passages.

522 posted on 11/11/2005 5:49:10 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

Sorry, no coffee yet.


523 posted on 11/11/2005 5:52:54 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Ichneumon

Literalists don't pick what portions of scripture they want to adhere to.

They follow a particular method (grammatico-historical method) in interpreting scripture.

Go to near the end of the article on this page:

http://www.forananswer.org/Top_General/Hermeneutics.htm


524 posted on 11/11/2005 5:53:22 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; P-Marlowe; AndrewC

I, too, hate any business practice that distorts a free market.

Rockefeller, certainly, was no free market capitalist. The last thing in the world that he was looking for was a free market.

All by himself, he was his era's OPEC cartel.


525 posted on 11/11/2005 5:56:38 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: P-Marlowe; highball
PC creationism...

Seriously, highball, you can call "creationism" and "intelligent design" lots of things -- but you cannot call it PC.

If you want to suffer continuous disdain in this life, then climb aboard as an evangelical Christian.

I doubt that an outsider, though, actually even notices what goes on in the media regarding conservative, evangelical Christians. They are not hailed as informed and enlightened.

526 posted on 11/11/2005 6:00:44 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
"I, too, hate any business practice that distorts a free market. "

Like government anti-trust laws.
527 posted on 11/11/2005 6:00:59 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg

ping to #525


528 posted on 11/11/2005 6:02:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: js1138
Sorry, no coffee yet.

Have you not considered that the mere existence of coffee is evidence of intelligent design?

529 posted on 11/11/2005 6:02:40 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

Malevolent Design.


530 posted on 11/11/2005 6:05:53 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

A monopoly (nor a cartel) is not a free market.

Anti-trust legislation is legitimate to the extent that it ends actual distortions of a free market. These would include extortions, manipulations, coercions, etc.


531 posted on 11/11/2005 6:07:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: js1138
Malevolent Design.

It is only evidence of Malevolent Design if you buy it at Starbucks.

532 posted on 11/11/2005 6:08:15 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: AndrewC

Fulfilling the law does not mean replacing one Sabbath with another. IOW, Fulfill != Abolish.


533 posted on 11/11/2005 6:08:57 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: xzins

So God changed the rules between the OT and the NT.


534 posted on 11/11/2005 6:10:09 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: P-Marlowe

If I were to attribute all the living things in the world to deliberate, conscious design, I would conclude that the designer is a sadist.


535 posted on 11/11/2005 6:11:24 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: xzins
"A monopoly (nor a cartel) is not a free market."

Monopolies only exist in government controlled businesses. Gates does not have a monopoly, nor was he close.

"Anti-trust legislation is legitimate to the extent that it ends actual distortions of a free market."

Anti-trust legislation is antithetical to free markets.

"These would include extortions, manipulations, coercions, etc."

These were already illegal. Anti-trust legislation was enacted for political reasons, not economic.
536 posted on 11/11/2005 6:11:59 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Junior

Things were easier to understand when the church was mostly Jewish people. They did not need to obey the Mosaic ritual law for their salvation, but did so for the sake of honoring God. When the church began to take on significant numbers of Gentiles, the church made it official that as a church policy, the Noahide law was sufficient for them (Acts 15).


537 posted on 11/11/2005 6:20:45 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: Junior

If I am a landlord of two houses, I can rent them under different leases.


538 posted on 11/11/2005 6:21:29 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: Junior; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Buggman; AndrewC
The Bible reveals that the God specifically used people and situations so that lessons could be learned by future generations.

1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play." F25 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now all F26 these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. 12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.

In another scripture we are taught that the LAW was a "schoolmaster" used by God to lead us to Christ.

19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

539 posted on 11/11/2005 6:21:48 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: MindBender26
The Bible, especially the Old Testament, is a collection of stories that were passed down through hundreds of generations verbally before they were ever written. They, like any story passed down through the generations by memory alone are subject to chance, modification, bad memory, etc

100s?!
average generation=approx.
70 years. X 300 generations = 21,000 years.
We are talking about the OLD Testament - BEFORE Christ.
Christ was about 2,000 years ago...
I'm not buying your math on this...
540 posted on 11/11/2005 6:22:18 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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