Posted on 11/09/2005 9:34:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge
Get out of California - blue states don't deserve our saving. Let them turn into France.
Annex California. It is a lost cause. When a liberal republican can't change California then it is a lost cause.
At least split it in two.
A lot of Californians supported GovSchwarzy since before the recall election. Where are they now. Their silence is most telling.
Arnold was not into specifics in defending his intiatives. It was all generalities. After a period of time, folks tuned Arnold out as just another actor. Details matter. He needed to go out and be specific as to how and why the hit ads of the unions and other ususual suspects were just plain wrong. He didn't. Sacremento is not Hollywood.
How will splitting it into two affect anything, unless the lines are convoluted, or one state has 80% of the population?
Mistakes made yes. . .but the above, surely not one of them.
Guess,when you have enough money you always win.
Arnold wasn't into specifics before the recall election, or since. Arnold is all about "generalities".
Agree. The biggest mistake made in this election; of course. . .was made by the voters of California.
His propositions were pretty specific proposals - at least the unions and democrats were smart enough to realize that.
Well during the romance, generalities sell, particularly when the mood of the courted is to divorce the other guy. But then, one needs to bring home the bacon, in due time. There is a season for both.
Yep....same thing in Washington State. Bill Gates and lots of other Limosine driving liberals helped fund the vote against an initiative to remove the 9 cent/gallon gas tax our Legislature so nicely gave us a few months ago....and his Daddy wants a State Income Tax.....that'll be next.
I think the decison to not debate much if at all during the Recall and all the carefully screened events was telling as to what he would deliver.
Camejo and Tom would dance circles around him. Hype can only carry a politician so far, no matter how many script rewrites are done.
I will say what I said last night as well, his advisors did not serve him well but apparently got paid very well..
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=10104
Devious Democrats Attack Arnold’s Initiatives
by Larry Kelley
Posted Nov 7, 2005
Come tomorrow night, Arnold Schwarzenegger might be wishing he stuck to movie stardom and real estate barony rather than trying to save California from itself—wishing instead that he were perhaps lounging on the French Riviera with fellow Europhiles such as Johnny Depp and Gweneth Paltrow in salons where the conversations inevitably come around to trashing President Bush and those American boorish boobs that voted for him.
But instead he’s spending his days being trashed by California’s myriad special interests: fireman, teachers, nurses, cops, public employee unions, city, county and statewide elected officials, trial lawyers, illegal alien activists and the vast legions of the state’s rental mobs, anarchists, and duped do- gooders.
This is a large list of trashers that he has attracted to himself. But after last week, when the Field Poll showed that his four key reform initiatives are all in danger of defeat in California’s special election tomorrow, the list of Arnold-bashers was expanded to include national players like the Democratic National Committee, Moveon.org and sadly, even some Republicans in Congress.
His key initiatives, which are aimed at totally retooling a corrupt California government, are:
Prop 74, which pushes teacher tenure out to five years
Prop 75, which requires union members’ consent before money can be taken from them for political purposes
Prop 76, which gives the governor the power to cut spending if there is revenue shortfall
Prop 77, which calls for redrawing not only state senate and assembly lines but all of California’s congressional districts as well
Last week I spoke to Kevin McCarthy, who is the Republican minority leader in the California Assembly and who has introduced a very similar version of Arnold’s redistricting initiative as an assembly bill, each year for the past three years. Our interview follows.
Given that the polls were mostly wrong about the recall election and predicted that Gray Davis would hold on to the governorship, how are you feeling about the chances for the Governor’s initiatives?
Assembly Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy: I think it all comes down to what turn out is. This is a special election. How do you call the percentage of the turnout? And which base is most motivated to turnout?
You sound guardedly optimistic.
McCarthy: Every single newspaper that has taken a position on redistricting has come out and supported it. And that was unbelievable. When the Field Poll people read just the ballot statements without endorsements the [positive] numbers go up.
Do you see that the lynchpin for reform of the state is redistricting?
McCarthy: These guys paid for their seats. The Communist Party [in the former Soviet Union] had more turnover than we have here.
I have a flier here that arrived in my mailbox from Citizens for Good Government telling me that we Republicans should vote no on Prop 77 (redistricting) and it quotes Congressman John Doolittle, Secretary of the House Republican Leadership as saying that the redistricting is bad for the Republican Party. Who are these people?
McCarthy: This shows how far they’ll go. This is [the product of] Democrat money raised by [U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy] Pelosi and others in her party. All they [the Democrats] really care about is 77 [redistricting] being defeated. They paid their money. They want their return on investment and expect to be in power for at least 10 years. This is a false mailer sent by Democrats to Republican voters. This is how worried they are and how devious they’ve become.
So what about Doolittle and the Congressional Republicans being against your redistricting plan?
McCarthy: Government should not be owned by a few people in the back room. Why have so many Democrats raised money to oppose 77 if somehow Republicans were going to lose? I would think they would be funding it.
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What chance was there, when even some 'FreeRepublic' members couldn't be bothered to get of their a$$'s and go and vote?
Thanks and I voted, fwiw.
You were here during the Recall Election. Remember all those threads backing Arnold and supporting his candidacy? Sure you do. They went well into the 500-1000 replies. 57% supported Arnold in the last FR poll. What happened to all those FReepers?
Rats jump ship.
Heard some talking head last night call the gov a Kennedy wrapped green republican and he was a loser from the get go.
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