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1 posted on 11/08/2005 7:14:38 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax
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He said the U.S. needed foreign students because "we are nowhere near graduating enough scientists and engineers to maintain, given the size of our economy, a leadership role in the global economy."

Hey, Zippy! If they're foreign students, then once they get their advanced degrees, they'll most probably be returning to their home countries! Sure, some will stay, some to work, others to teach. But most will take their knowledge with them out of this country.

It you really cared about about how this country fares in the competition for high tech expertise, you would have worked against "Big Education" which tends to dumb down the education of native American students.

Mark

65 posted on 11/08/2005 7:38:04 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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Out of a zillion?

66 posted on 11/08/2005 7:39:35 AM PST by Velveeta
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That does it. I am official not concerned about Hillary becoming President.


69 posted on 11/08/2005 7:41:49 AM PST by dangus
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Cuck Flinton.


70 posted on 11/08/2005 7:43:32 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (The 2005 Chicago White Sox---World Series Champs---WOO! HOO!)
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Immigration crackdown hurting US? The only thing it might hurt is DEMOCRAT VOTES.


73 posted on 11/08/2005 7:48:50 AM PST by EagleUSA
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tighter immigration laws are hurting America, saying the new restrictions aren't worth it even if they stop the "one out of a zillion [foreigners] who might have a bomb."

For your information Billy, the 9/11 terrorist didn't have a bomb but killed over three thousand Americans. Again Billy, if the U.S. is the only place that the foreigners can study then the U.S. hasn't loss anything because; dummy, if they can't study and learn they won't know anything either and America is still ahead. If there is not enough home grown scientists and engineers then give an incentive for American high school graduates who are college material to take science and engineering classes and give or crack down on American companies who try and fix the pay scale of American college graduates. That can be done easily because almost all companies in America have or do most of their work for government contracts or are subcontractors for those companies.

74 posted on 11/08/2005 7:49:43 AM PST by AIC
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"Clinton said the terror trade-off wasn't worth it.
"When we got real tough on visas - because one out of a zillion of them might have a bomb - we lost a lot of brains. We might have dodged a bomb but we lost a lot of brains." "

I don't know what crackdown he's talking about. The graduate schools are up their eyeballs in foreign grad students. In many labs there are no US natives. Grad students likely to be terrorists would come from the middle east and there are so of them that even if we banned them completely it wouldn't make a dent in the grad student population. Is Mr Impeachemnt talking about illegal mexican immigrants? Not too many of them are trying to get into grad school. I think KKKlinton is back on the crack pipe.


75 posted on 11/08/2005 7:50:28 AM PST by BadAndy (Unnecessarily harsh)
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"When we got real tough on visas - because one out of a zillion of them might have a bomb - we lost a lot of brains. We might have dodged a bomb but we lost a lot of brains."

Just goes to show you that Democrats think Americans are stupid and that we can train ourselves how to be good scientists. What a bunch of bologna from a half wit! I don't remember us getting tough on visas YET!

77 posted on 11/08/2005 7:53:44 AM PST by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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If Bill The Chinese Condom King says it, it MUST be right..../sarcasm


79 posted on 11/08/2005 7:55:02 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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We need to have an orderly program for legal immigration from south of the border. The Hispanics have no more desire to be insular than the Italians, Polish, Chinese, or any other group that came over here and established their own enclaves. I think any tendency to do so is the result of their "advocates" encouraging and enabling them to be separate. We need to do several things:

- We need English as the official language. This is not to say that you can't have Polish signs in Polish neighborhoods, but if you want to deal with the government, it should be in English. Same goes for education. We have to stop enabling language divisions.

- We need a immigration program specifically for North America. There is clearly a demand for these workers. They need to be screened and then allowed in legally. This is as much for their protection as it is for ours. If OBL ever manages to sneak a bomb in from south of the border, the repercussions for Hispanics on the street will be swift and terrible.

- We need to crack down hard on illegal immigration. Every country in the world enforces their borders. The only amnesty I would support would be if they notified us of their presence and went back home immediately. I would then allow them to apply for legal entry. Illegal immigration make a mockery of our laws and fools out of those who follow them. I don't think a fence is at all unreasonable.

My $0.02 worth.
80 posted on 11/08/2005 7:57:15 AM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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You know, this is THE one case where I might make a trade of an American citizen (Bill) for an illegal alien. At least the illegal alien will work.


82 posted on 11/08/2005 7:58:10 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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My university should be renamed "The Chinese University of the Eastern U.S." We are educating thousands of Chinese students (mainland) who then go back to China and hate us.

So, I respectfully disagree with our former President.


83 posted on 11/08/2005 7:58:27 AM PST by whitedog57 (Holland)
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So, says Clinton, we lose several buildings, several planes, and 3,000 innocent citizens ever so often.

It's well worth it! More important that we welcome persons from all over the world to cross illegally into the U.S. through our open borders.

Clinton's goal?

He is definitely vying for King of the World. His anti-American sentiments are coming through. That's why he thinks HIS WIFE would make a good President. To further the downfall of the U.S., and to assist him in his quest for President of the U.N.


85 posted on 11/08/2005 8:00:33 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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This smells like a pitch for money from the Chinese, etc. for his wifes future Presidential bid.......

This guy is so dumb he doesn't even know when his head is too far up his own arse.......I guess he just likes to feel the love.

88 posted on 11/08/2005 8:02:36 AM PST by thingumbob (Democracy is the best defense against terrorist/communist thugs!)
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Clinton is shilling for the Saudis: Saudis, Arabs Bankrolled Clinton Library
89 posted on 11/08/2005 8:03:17 AM PST by Plutarch
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The impeached one's solution to the shortage of engineers and scientists in graduate school is bass-akwards as would be expected from an enemy within. Actually we need to have a national push for more of our own kids to start pursueing science and engineering careers...it's happened before.


92 posted on 11/08/2005 8:06:08 AM PST by Mogollon
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Scumbag: "I'm very worried that one of the consequences of our tightness on immigration and visas . . .

Tightness?

What tightness? What is Scumbag smoking in those "cigars"?

The blood of 911's stain on Scumbag will outive the stain on the blue dress.

Scumbag allowed a flood of not just illegal immigrants but swiss cheese background checks (actually no checks) on legal immigrants in order to beef up the RAT voter rolls for the 2000 election. David Schippers has great info on this subject.

95 posted on 11/08/2005 8:23:37 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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What "crackown"? Where?


96 posted on 11/08/2005 8:23:56 AM PST by CodeToad
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Yeah, Bill, I learned well in 1993 that terrorists setting off a bomb here - and the American lives that end because of it - are of zero concern to you.

I hope that AIDS you got kicks into overdrive already.


98 posted on 11/08/2005 8:30:59 AM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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Yeah, billy boy.....We lost about 3000 brains" on September 11th, 2001. I cannot type my words for you...scum will have to do.
99 posted on 11/08/2005 8:35:28 AM PST by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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