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Federal lawsuit could follow board vote [Evolution in Kansas & Dover]
Lawrence Journal-World [Kansas] ^
| 08 November 2005
| Joel Mathis
Posted on 11/08/2005 4:17:17 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
How about an Evolution weekend with all your classic favorites from The Turtles, The Beatles, The Monkees, The Troggs, The Zombies, The Animals, Blue Oyster Cult and more.
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posted on
11/08/2005 5:48:33 AM PST
by
Nextrush
(The Soviet Union died, but Robert Mugabe is alive and well.)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
I have a hard time understanding how a Conservative could believe in creationism/ID.But didn't you get the memo? Conservatives are supposed to be Christians who believe in a literal interpretation of the English translation of the Bible before anything else.
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posted on
11/08/2005 5:55:37 AM PST
by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
To: Non-Sequitur
Let's see; flight, gravity, physics. Come on down to the nearest grain elevator and bring your hang glider. When you step off the top edge to prove the theory of gravity and flight you'd better be strapped in because without it physics will come to an abrupt halt in your case.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:09:54 AM PST
by
Dust in the Wind
(I've got peace like a river. . .)
To: Non-Sequitur
The sun does, in fact, revolve around the earth as related in Joshua?Go read Joshua. It DOES NOT SAY THAT THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH! Joshua says that: So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. Joshua 10:13. It merely describes how it looks to an observer (and if you try to tell me that you have never said "the sun set"...).
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:12:23 AM PST
by
Señor Zorro
("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
To: CarolinaGuitarman; ModernDayCato
MDC's source is indeed an idiot. Anyone who invokes an a priori probability estimate--whether it's to 'prove' design, to 'prove' that a random process can produce complexity (the purported invitability of the complete works of Shakespeare arising in the output of a vast sea of typing monkeys), or to prove or disprove the existence of extraterrestrial life --is always talking rot.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:13:55 AM PST
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: js1138
I can see it now
bio 101 for science majors
bio 101a for non-science majors
bio 101b for nonsense majors from Kansas
To: ModernDayCato
The guy made up those numbers out of whole cloth based upon his beliefs; Garbage in = Garbage out.
Also evolution is not "random". Mutation is random. Evolution is through natural selection.
Just because a mechanism is random does not mean the process is 'by accident'. According to quantum theory the formation of matter is random; but given the conditions of the universe formation of matter is inevitable. Something that is inevitable is not 'by accident'.
According to mutation theory, change in DNA is random; but given the conditions of life on earth, evolution through natural selection is inevitable. Something that is inevitable is not 'by accident'.
For example during an ice age rabbits would, over successive generations, eventually match their background with white fur. Now the process that brought this about would be through random mutation of the genes that supplied color to the rabbit fur pelt; but given the survival advantage of being white against a snowy background, the outcome would be inevitable.
Lastly 'Intelligent' Design is not a Scientific theory, it is philosophical posturing. Just because I share the underlying philosophy that the universe was created does not mean that I have to accept a gussied up philosophy as if it were a falsifiable theory that helps to observe and predict the universe. Even if ID were 100% true, it doesn't change the fact that it is 100% useless for observing and predicting the universe.
To: wyattearp
The arrogance is breathtaking ...Creation doesn't fit under "science" ...re-define science!
In addition to the basic group of legal stuff you alluded to, I can also see lawsuits by parents whose kids don't get into Prestige U.
To: From many - one.
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I wonder if Kansas may be a lost cause? Mostly pretty rural and hard to get the word out about what's really going on.Nebraska's more rural than Kansas, and we've been able to fend this sort of thing off. Partly the problem was the passivity of the scientists in Kansas, who let this thing develop into a monster before really getting mobilized against it. And partly it's the much higher proportion of Southern Baptists, who seem to be the most virulenty creationist of all the denominations.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:26:30 AM PST
by
Right Wing Professor
(If you love peace, prepare for war. If you hate violence, own a gun.)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
Conservative could believe in creationism/ID. We're supposed to be the rational ones.The start of my homepage has an essay devoted to the powerful linkage between conservatism, science, and rationality. It won't impress the creationists, because they're so unhinged from reality that nothing will impress them.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:32:00 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
To: anthraciterabbit
What I CAN'T understand is anybody who'd call himself a republican or a conservative believing in such a thing. Conservatism isn't religious fanaticism, which quickly takes you into nightmarish totalitarianism. Probably you're a conservative only in the sense that the Taliban is conservative.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:32:53 AM PST
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: From many - one.
Mostly pretty rural and hard to get the word out about what's really going on. Too flat. Bizarrely flat. Has to do something to stunt the cognitive development.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:33:56 AM PST
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
Because we value objective knowledge and have not abandoned our minds to either right or left wing anti-science post-modernism.\ Or maybe nobody ever taught you that "I don't know" is a valid answer to most questions...
To: anthraciterabbit
I can understand scientists concern that science be kept "pure" (for lack of a better word) and why they want to keep non-science out of the classroom. The ACLU is obviously anti-Jewish, anti-Christain, and anti-religion and yet has found very willing accomplices in eradicating religion from schools. For the scientists, it's about science. The ACLU had just found the hot button issue to get science's backing. To tell the truth, I really don't think they give a rat's posterior about whether science is being taught correctly or not as long as they can further their agenda using it.
I know I for one don't object to science being taught properly and I'd bet a lot of other Creationists don't either. I don't think that's the issue with them. The issue is resisting the attempts by the ACLU to by legal precedent to attempt to further their agenda. I believe that's what the Creationists/Christians are fighting. Evolution is just the weapon chosen by the ACLU in that fight because they can get the support of the scientific community and that gives it some teeth.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:39:58 AM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: PatrickHenry
To: VadeRetro; Right Wing Professor
Check out post 29 by Right Wing Professor.
Although I personally cannot understand voluntarily living in a flat place. Drive me nits.
To: doc30
"Conservatives are supposed to be Christians who believe in a literal interpretation of the English translation of the Bible before anything else."
Maybe "suposed to be" to some people but aren't in real life.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:42:51 AM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Señor Zorro
So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. Truly a miracle beyond comprehension. In theory, one can "stop the Sun" by stopping the Earth in its rotation. However, you'd notice that as the earthquake from Hades before you could be bothered to notice astonomical oddities. Someone somewhere did some calculations on the difficulties after Velikovsky's book Worlds In Collision proposed that the Earth had indeed stopped. Suffice it to say that the energy of the Earth's spin, about 1000 mph at the equator, wouldn't normally just disappear. And even that won't stop the moon's apparent motion, much of which is the moon's real orbital motion about the Earth.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:43:42 AM PST
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: ModernDayCato
Here's some science for you, friend. I happened to be listening to talk radio on the way to work yesterday. There was a molecular biologist talking about so-called 'random evolution,' with regard to a single-celled organism. So, am I to understand that you are basing your entire understanding of a very large and complex theory comprising numerous interconnected fields of scientific study upon a statement by a guy you heard on talk radio?
To: metmom
I know I for one don't object to science being taught properly and I'd bet a lot of other Creationists don't either.If that is really true, you should favor the teaching of evolution and you shouldn't have any problem with ID being excluded.
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posted on
11/08/2005 6:46:38 AM PST
by
highball
("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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