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Paris Burning: How Empires End
Human Events Online ^ | 11/7/05 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 11/07/2005 2:42:16 PM PST by B Knotts

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To: Clemenza

Fine, you've won your case on Coughlin. I don't see anything remotely like this from Buchanan. I disagree with his isolationism and a number of other things, but "identical" or even "substantively similar" to Coughlin, based on your evidence for the latter? Sorry, that strikes me as just a bit overwrought.


141 posted on 11/07/2005 4:31:48 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: HungarianGypsy
As a Texan, I have no fear of Mexican culture, people, or anything else. I do believe our immigration policy is bass-akwards. It rewards people who enter illegally, while penalizing those who follow the rules.

There is nothing threatening about traditional Mexican culture. However, every country has thugs, thieves, drug runners and murderers. These frequent the border, and jump back and forth across. We must know who is entering our country.

My family is part English, Irish, Spanish, American Cherokee, German and Mexican (we get along with everybody, several times). There is good and bad in almost every culture.

The issue with France is that they are dying. The Muslim culture is different, in that they view themselves as being at war with the west. Unfortunately, most of Europe and the American coastlines are still stuck in Post-Modernist multiculturalism, and cannot comprehend the concept of an enemy that insists that your death is an important part of their culture.

142 posted on 11/07/2005 4:33:21 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: ex-snook

OK, me too. America first. Israel second. After all they have been on the front lines fighting the Islamic horror in all of it's various guises (friendly dictators like Nasser, quite subversion by so-called friends like Mubarik, all out Jihad from Hezbollah, corrupt kleptocracy ala Arafat, idiot liberal collaborators..).

We used to say they were our best friend in the middle east. It might be in the world now. Britan is still there, and the Aussies are damn good. But it's a short list of countries that really support us.


143 posted on 11/07/2005 4:35:25 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: al kafirun

I believe there are a number of French territories. I think that is what Pat refers to.


144 posted on 11/07/2005 4:36:20 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: RoseofTexas
I have been wondering about the "gun rights" of the French since the riots began. France, best pals of the UN, does have restrictive private citizen gun laws:

Reject UN Gun Control

Perhaps the biggest threat to gun rights in America today comes not from domestic lawmakers, but from abroad. Even as support for gun control wanes at home, globalist bureaucrats are working to override national sovereignty and craft international gun laws.

For more than a decade the United Nations has waged a campaign to undermine Second Amendment rights in America. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called on members of the Security Council to address the “easy availability” of small arms and light weapons, by which he means all privately owned firearms. In response, the Security Council released a report calling for a comprehensive program of worldwide gun control, a report that admonishes the U.S. and praises the restrictive gun laws of Red China and France!

Further:

Bypassing U.S. Voters. National Review Online. Aug. 3, 2001.
The role of anti-gun lobbies at the U.N. conference. http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel080301.shtml

Gunning Against Guns. National Review Online. Aug. 1, 2001. Gun registration and "transparency" at the U.N. conference. http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel073101.shtml

More:

From AIM Accuracy in Media:

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Europeans cannot bring themselves to condemn the 9/11 attacks on the United States. They are fit to be tied over Israel's retaliation against the suicide bombers. They grant absolute rights without moral absolutes.

The result is a lawless culture that criminalizes speech, bans guns and wonders why urban crime is out of control. Holland prohibits hate speech in its constitution, has disarmed its citizens and now, having disarmed tongue and self, stands defenseless as an increasing population of radical Islamic immigrants runs rampant through urban areas. Crime-loving immigrants have taken over inner cities and produced a crime rate that has Dutch citizens looking for gun-toting, candid-speaking "extreme right" candidates.

The French nearly sputtered up their foie gras when they realized that "extreme right" Jean-Marie Le Pen took 25 percent of the vote in the recent national election. The socialist and Communist elite feel the outrage and backlash from unemployed blue-collar workers who live unarmed among the crime and criminals. "People feel unsafe in the streets," was the platform of one "extreme right" candidate for the National Assembly.

One Berlin paper, startled at the movement wrote, "Whether Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Portugal, France, Belgium or now Holland, everywhere the right-wing populists are on the march." Oh, how people speak when they regret lost rights.

Gun control is not such a hot idea when you're living in an urban area overrun by crime, particularly by young hostile males as dangerous as elk in search of a hook-up. The savvy Euros are weaponless, both in arms and tongue. Having taken politically correct speech to the point of making discouraging and disparaging words a crime, few dare mention the immigrant crime problem. Guns fire one way - at the silenced law-abiding citizens.

145 posted on 11/07/2005 4:37:17 PM PST by Alia
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To: Vicomte13

Do you have an url for this data, pls?


146 posted on 11/07/2005 4:38:56 PM PST by Alia
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To: Vicomte13

Reason I ask is: In the 90s Europe was imposing "quotas" upon government offices and bureacracies. I haven't kept up with whether or not France, for example, met its "target" goals.


147 posted on 11/07/2005 4:39:55 PM PST by Alia
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To: nutmeg

read later


148 posted on 11/07/2005 4:40:43 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: B Knotts
"The rampage began October 27 when two Arab youths, fleeing what they mistakenly thought was a police pursuit, leapt onto power lines and were electrocuted."

The two "Arab" youth were obviously more French than Arab. Who knows? Maybe the arabs are french at heart.

149 posted on 11/07/2005 4:43:30 PM PST by bvw
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To: peyton randolph
>>>>>Since his childhood, Buchanan's hero has been Father Charles Coughlin.

This is a lie, pure and simple.

>>>>>>Buchanan is a racist. Always has been. Always will be.

Ah, the "racist" charge--the cry of a liberal losing an argument.

The fact is, the United States continues to be invaded every year by hundreds of thousands of illegal Hispanics, most of whom settle in Spanish-speaking enclaves. This is an unprecedented development--we have never before had so many immigrants coming from a neighboring country, constantly reinforced by a neverending stream of newcomers. This immigration has already transformed America, producing a sustained white flight from southern California, numerous Spanish-speaking enclaves, and a culture where people accpet with equanimity actions (such as politicans courting voters in Spanish or being asked whether you want to conduct a transaction in English or Spanish) that would have outraged earlier generations of Americans.

It is, of course, possible that continued mass immigration from Mexico and the rest of the Third World will not damage America. But only a fool would bet on that.

150 posted on 11/07/2005 4:43:52 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: kanawa

"So why don't these rioters use the political process to address their grievances?"

Because French politicians are arrogant assholes who never listen to anybody, and it doesn't matter which party is elected?


151 posted on 11/07/2005 4:49:19 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: DCPatriot

Yes.


152 posted on 11/07/2005 4:49:30 PM PST by Wraith (Your village called the idiot is missing.)
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To: peyton randolph
>>>>>One cannot find a single issue with respect to Israel and the Jews in which Buchanan's views are separate and distinct from that of Coughlin.

What a moron. Coughlin's career was over long before Israel came into existence, and he probably wouldn't have agreed with Buchanan's support for Israel throughout the Cold War.

>>>>>>>This is not surprising given that Buchanan's father was a big Coughlin supporter and the kids undoubtedly grew up listening to Coughlin because of it.

This is a lie, one that even the smear artist Ted Koppel had to retract. Of course, as a leftist, it's no surprise to see you resort to lies.

153 posted on 11/07/2005 4:51:03 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: DCPatriot

Are you aware that there are a very large number of non French immigrants there as well? Who is stocking the fire here?


154 posted on 11/07/2005 4:52:12 PM PST by Wraith (Your village called the idiot is missing.)
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To: Alia

"Do you have an url for this data, pls?"

Sorry, which data?

If you mean the deputies and senators, I just went to the assemblee nationale and senat websites and looked at the photos of the deputies and senators from the DOM TOM. I didn't even attempt to go through them all for metropolitan France.


155 posted on 11/07/2005 4:52:45 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13

Guilty of "lookism", eh? lol. Thank you, I'll go back to my searching.


156 posted on 11/07/2005 4:54:25 PM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

In France, the ownership of hunting rifles and shotguns does not require a license or registration.

Other firearms do.

That is not very restrictive. It is probably the least restrictive gun law in Europe.


157 posted on 11/07/2005 4:54:36 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Sabramerican
>>>>>>Buchanan is an anti-Semite and his views on Israel-

What precisely does this column have to do with Israel? Or do you just pop up to smear Buchanan whenever his name shows up?

158 posted on 11/07/2005 4:54:55 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Vicomte13
Because French politicians are arrogant assholes who never listen to anybody, and it doesn't matter which party is elected?

LOL, I should of known the answer to that one.

159 posted on 11/07/2005 4:55:04 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Alia

France did not impose quotas, except for women. Half of posts must be women. This is the ideal. The reality is not there.


160 posted on 11/07/2005 4:55:47 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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