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Pirates attack luxury cruise ship [New details]
Scotland on Sunday ^ | November 6, 2005 | by WILLIAM LYONS

Posted on 11/06/2005 7:39:59 AM PST by aculeus

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To: aculeus
were these actually self-interested pirates? Or were they Islamic terrorists operating out of boats?

I'm more inclined to believe the latter.
21 posted on 11/06/2005 7:53:04 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: Pharmboy

The type of inflatable that can sail 100 miles into blue water is not the sort that can be sunk by an airgun.


22 posted on 11/06/2005 7:53:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mlc9852
Why would anyone want to cruise near Somolia?

How would you get from Egypt to Kenya on a ship?

23 posted on 11/06/2005 7:53:15 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (A right wing Christian, not part of the Christian Right)
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To: aculeus
Armed men on board two 25ft inflatable boats fired live bullets…

Live bullets – why didn’t they use blanks? < /sarcasm>

I have watched several accounts of this on the TV news – and with one exception all the newsreaders seemed shocked that there are still pirates roaming the sea lanes. The one exception went on to include the number of attacks last year and the most dangerous areas.

24 posted on 11/06/2005 7:54:25 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: aculeus

If crews are to be armed, a shotgun is the last damn thing I would want. Give them something with stopping power and range.


25 posted on 11/06/2005 7:54:29 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (A right wing Christian, not part of the Christian Right)
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To: umgud

Your motorhome has slide out gun turrets and flamethrowers?

Ya' need to park in better neighborhoods......

Actually, it sounds like you can park any darn place ya' want...


26 posted on 11/06/2005 7:54:40 AM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: aculeus
"two 25ft inflatable boats"

Are also deflatable with a little grapeshot.

27 posted on 11/06/2005 7:54:44 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: aculeus
Sounds like an opportunity for a new kind of adventure tourism. Masquerading as a ship full of rich, unarmed tourists, passengers pay for the opportunity to plunk Somali Islamakazi pirates with concealed M-2 0.50 caliber machine guns. To add to the sense of thrill and adventure, the pirates will be armed with AK-47s and RPGs.

Passengers are outfitted with stylish Eddie Bauer flack jackets and steel pots. Photographers will record the hunt on HD DVDs, included in the fare.
28 posted on 11/06/2005 7:54:47 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Travis McGee

The goal was to kidnap and behead the 150 Americans on-board. These "pirates" were Al Qaeada, and the goal wasn't to steal jewelry.


29 posted on 11/06/2005 7:55:28 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: 1rudeboy

Indeed, but I had been under the impression (perhaps incorrectly) that the inflatables came off a larger ship and did not sail out 100 miles from shore.


30 posted on 11/06/2005 7:56:18 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Beelzebubba
This really plays up the class envy angle, to a factually dishonest degree.

I think it's simply a bit of harmless newspaper puffery. S on S tends to be pretty decent.

31 posted on 11/06/2005 7:56:22 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
It is kinda difficult to imagine how -- exactly -- they planned to board ship.

They would have to stop the ship. Shooting it in the side like they did won't work.
If they'd used their RPG's to damage the propulsion area it might have worked.
Then threats with their small arms could force a boarding party.

32 posted on 11/06/2005 7:56:36 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: aculeus
"The captain tried to run one of the boats over, but they were small boats, about 25ft long.

Good for him! I would have paid top dollar to see that. Good thing the liner wasn't owned by the French...
33 posted on 11/06/2005 7:56:56 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Democrats: soulless minions of orthodoxy.)
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To: aculeus

Most do. What they really need is a response team that is trained to not only escape an attack, but kill the attackers.

I was in the Navy working in Special Ops for 10 years. I have conducted ship attacks like this in training. It is a very dangerous undertaking. Just imagine holding a 30ft fiberglass boat next to a ship for 2 min, while the ship is actively tring to evade you. We only used our oldest boats for this because the amount of damage they substained when the ship got the better of us. However, it is possible to get a SEAL team aboard a ship in less than 90 seconds.

The ship was lucky that it did not happen at night. The outcome may have been very different. Sounds like the cruise line could make a wise investment by hiring some ex-spec op guys to provide security. I know a few that would work cheap if geetin the same VIP treatment was part of the deal.


34 posted on 11/06/2005 7:57:35 AM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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To: aculeus

This ship was pretty far off shore from what I understand... how on Earth did these "pirates" find it? Were they just out joyriding and stumbled across it?


35 posted on 11/06/2005 7:57:36 AM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: aculeus

Aaaarrrggh! You throw some lines up the sides me hearty, and board her from the port and starboard!


36 posted on 11/06/2005 7:57:36 AM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

By staying far away from Somolia.


37 posted on 11/06/2005 7:58:27 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: aculeus

One reads of piracy from time to time. Does anyone know if such incidents have increased over, say the last 25 years?


38 posted on 11/06/2005 7:59:30 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Senator Goldwater


This doesn't look like an inflatable boat to me. And these "pirates" don't look more like they were interested in beheading rich American tourists.
39 posted on 11/06/2005 7:59:33 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
And you know this exactly....how? Your morning CIA briefing?

It is a known fact that standard scruffy pirates have been attacking passing yachts (round the world sailboats) for years here, with simple robbery/looting/plundering as their goal. Until proven otherwise, that is what we KNOW as opposed to what we might like to SUSPECT.

Even a sailboat is "Fort Knox" to locals who live on less than $500 per year, total. One pair of binoculars or a GPS is a month's "salary."

40 posted on 11/06/2005 7:59:37 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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