NRA shooting for more gun-friendly laws (FL)

The Daytona Beach News-Journal ^ | November 03, 2005 | JIM SAUNDERS

[neverdem]

Keep the Canary Alive (2nd Amendment)

[2banana]

An armed citizen, the first and best defense in the war on terrorism...

The original "homeland" security...

[blackie]

The Second Amendment...
America's Only Homeland Security!

[neverdem]

BANG!

[Wonder Warthog]

"The so-called "no retreat" bill that passed this spring drew national attention because it gave citizens more legal authority to use force if they are attacked. While supporters said the law was needed for people to protect themselves, gun-control advocates were outraged."

So, the "no retreat" law has now been in effect for what---six months or so, and I have yet to hear/read about even ONE incident from Florida where the "new gun right" has been abused.

You can bet your entire retirement savings that if there HAD been EVEN ONE, that the "Brady Bunch" and their allies in the "Stone Age Media" would have had news of it plastered across all available bandwidth.

[Joe Brower]

When folks ask me what I like about Florida, I am always certain to mention our firearms laws... $:-)

[OXENinFLA]

So, the "no retreat" law has now been in effect for what---six months or so, and I have yet to hear/read about even ONE incident from Florida where the "new gun right" has been abused.

I do believe there has been one case but I'm not sure of it's outcome. I think one guy had a pipe and the other had a gun.

[Joe Brower]

We must always keep in mind the fact that, just as the tyrannical gun-control measures enacted in other states/countries make those places act as "living laboratories" to startly demonstrate the utter failure of such measures, places like Florida where the laws are classical liberal in regards to guns can also be used as real-world examples of how allowing citizens their individual rights has an astoundingly positive effect on communities & society.

[cyn]

"Bill makes clear that government could not confiscate guns during states of emergency, such as hurricanes. The NRA supports the bill after a dispute in New Orleans about whether police could take people's weapons during the chaotic aftermath of Hurricane Katrina."

-- bump. gave me a real sick feeling to watch that happening.

[Leatherneck_MT]

Wish to God we had reps in the US Senate that were this Pro-active.

[blackie]

The Second Amendment...
America's Only Homeland Security!

[mbynack]

I'm sure that there have been hundreds of cases of crimes prevented by companies not allowing employees to keep guns in their cars.

I can imagine a guy who is intent on gunning down the entire HR department, but stops at the last minute because he doesn't want to violate the company policy on weapons in the parking lot.

Blood in the streets. Every fender bender will turn into an old west shootout.

We need to outlaw guns completely so Florida will be as safe as the streets of Washington DC.

[109ACS]

So, the "no retreat" law has now been in effect for what---six months or so, and I have yet to hear/read about even ONE incident from Florida where the "new gun right" has been abused.


Actually, the law has been in effect since October 1st.

After the "guns allowed in vehicles" victory, I want "open carry" next.

[yarddog]

Not too many years ago, Florida was one of the poorer Southern States on gun laws. You could not carry in your vehicle unless not immediately available, you had real difficulty carrying concealed at all and the laws on self defense basically made you have to run away.

My GGrandfather killed a man in total self defense but was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 20 years in prison. Fortunately the Governor realized an injustice had been done and gave him a pardon.

[TYVets]

I think one guy had a pipe and the other had a gun.

Never take a peice of pipe to a gun fight!

[Still Thinking]

When folks ask me what I like about Florida, I am always certain to mention our firearms laws... $:-)

Well, it sure as heck ain't the climate.

[Alexander Rubin]

I'm not sure this is the best idea in the world. I was in favour of the other motions and I'm glad this went through, but won't this just encourage criminals to break into cars more and cause more legally purchased guns to end up on the black market? I am just asking. Unattended guns in public places seems like a poor idea to me. It's different in a home where they could be needed for self-defence, and they can be locked up and kept in a safe place. At least, in my mind it is. Thoughts?

[Andonius_99]

ya know, i'm split on this issue. The pro-gunner in me says that this is a great idea, but the capitalist in me asks what is the government doing interfering with private industry? This is truly going to be an interesting one to watch. When do the rights of one individual (the worker) trump the rights of another (the business owner)? The patriot in me wants RKBA everywhere but by having the government intervene in a case like this, one can't help but wonder if this will harm businesses in any way.

[Still Thinking]

Here is Still Thinking's heirarchy of rights:

1. Infividuals
2. Employers
3. States
4. Feds
5. Foreigners
6. Drug Warriors
7. Anything MADD approves of

[William Tell]

Andonius_99 said: "...one can't help but wonder if this will harm businesses in any way."

I find myself suppporting a change only for corporations, who already receive a benefit of limited financial liability for their businesses. It seems perfectly reasonable to constrain corporations from infringing rights. Sole proprietors and other privately held businesses could still make their own decisions.

From a practical viewpoint, I can't see some mom-and-pop grocery store banning firearms if the local supremarket chain is disallowed.