Like a Fox...
Posted on 11/01/2005 8:58:42 AM PST by Solson
Hmmmm....However, just suppose, the Jihadi's were able to get a handful of people infected, Would they really have to get into the country, or just travel to Europe and Canada, and hang around the airports....
This is not Border Problem.
Like a Fox...
What about infected birds, cooked for Thanksgiving??
See above. Two or three infected Jihadis in Tiajauna interacting amoing the Collegiates and Servicemen sampling the wares, say, in between Halloween and Chrstmas, would be all it would take, to
provide the Genesis for a National pnademic in the order of
The Stand....
50 infected people, travelling home for Thansgiving or Christmas, using Airports, Airplanes, Bus Terminals and Busses.....
That is exactly the reason for concern. While there is no reason to believe that the mortality rate will be that high if avian flu became a readily transmissible disease and struck the US, if the mortality rate was even 1% and one third of our population was infected, that would be one million deaths.
Fortunately, the SARS outbreak was very helpful on teaching us how to fight a modern highly transmissible virus. Simple things like opening the windows of the hospitals greatly reduced the infection rate (because the aerosolized viruses were sucked out of hospital rooms and killed instead of being allowed to concentrate). It also showed who needed to be protected the most. The elderly had a greater than 50% mortality rate while young adults had single percentage mortality rates. If bird flu hits, simple things like opening the windows in nursing homes or in any place where a large number of people congregate could save lives. SARS also showed us that China will cover up a deadly disease if given the chance. If there is a bird flu outbreak, I would expect the same.
My company was scheduled to provide flu shot yesterday. It was cancelled due to a late shipment of the vaccine. Hope it wasn't from the same guy that was giving water shots in Baytown.
Are you kidding?
Open borders provide him with a magnificent opportunity to prove that he's more generous with taxpayer funds than the 'Rats are. It's all part of being "compassionate", dontcha know?
I hope you're right. Time will tell, won't it?
"What is seen is the strong-backed Illegal Alien who will come to the Emergency Room and cough, sweat, and bleed but is assumed basically healthy even though he and his Illegal Alien wife and kids never were examined for contagious diseases. By our glance and by our shrug we grant Illegal Aliens health passes. What is unseen is that many Illegal Aliens harbor within their bodies fatal diseases that long ago American medicine fought and vanquished. Now Illegal Aliens carry drug resistant strains of tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, Dengue Fever, and Chagas Disease. [7],[8]"
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=9572
Its all hysteria, like SARS.
What's with you guys and these borders posts? Have you never been to the border? I think Bush who as Governor of Texas which shares a longer border with Mexico than any other state would know something about the subject. You might try putting the emphasis on the real problem, employers who hire illegals. Without jobs and friendly state services like in California there would be no problem.
Now that birds with this have been found in Europe and now Canada, it might be the reason. Human to human transmission has not taken place.
Tamiflu (oseltamivir) resistance already exists in H5N1. Relenza (zanamivir) hardly exists. Taking either of them as a prophylactic course is incredibly irresponsible, but a national stockpile for treatment ONLY is not a terrible idea (for any flu season). It is, of course, still a totally hopeless means of containing a pandemic. The only bit of luck on our side is that if H5N1 steals the genetic material it needs for human to human transmission, it will probably make it less fatal. H5N1 has not neccessarily been found in Canada. An H5 type has been found but it hasn't been subtyped. Don't get excited yet, we'll know by end of week I think.
The heat would kill the virus.
This has been addressed on FR for months. Check it out for the details...
"Today, Senator Kerry(who fought in Vietnam) said that the President isn't doing nearly enough to help the 145 million Americans without health care. The Senator said that the vaccine will only benefit the wealthiest Americans and that if he were President this wouldn't have happened. Kerry then stated that as a wealthy American, he would not receive a shot if offered."
"In other breaking news, It has been reported that Senator Kerry, after recieving his flu shot stated that it is important that government continue to function in the event of the flu pandemic. In an interview with Tim Russert, Kerry denied ever saying he wouldn't take a flu shot. Russert did not follow up."
You border guys are nutters.
Birds do neither understand nor obey the Border Patrol.
Not to worry. I saw a doctor on TV today. She said that people could eat their Thanksgiving meals without worry. As long as the bird is throughly cooked, it is safe.
Use the same precautions that you use when handling any raw meat and people should be okay. Just remember to wash your hands thoroughly after handling raw poultry.
Are you kidding?
They're the same ones who hired Dubya.
From WHO:
Exposure is considered most likely during slaughter, defeathering, butchering, and preparation of poultry for cooking.
There is no evidence that properly cooked poultry or eggs can be a source of infection.
Does the virus spread easily from birds to humans?
No. Though more than 100 human cases have occurred in the current outbreak, this is a small number compared with the huge number of birds affected and the numerous associated opportunities for human exposure, especially in areas where backyard flocks are common. It is not presently understood why some people, and not others, become infected following similar exposures.
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/avian_faqs/en/index.html
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