Tension Over Intelligent Design

International Herald Tribune ^ | 10/31/2005 | Joseph Rosenbloom

[USConstitutionBuff]

Among the 40 to 45 members of the Muslim Student Association, intelligent-design "hasn't been a topic of great debate," said Youssef Chouhoud, the group's president and a political science student.

As a Muslim, "I'm glad to have somebody standing against evolution," Chouhoud said. "That, I'm proud of.'

[Eddeche]

As a Muslim, "I'm glad to have somebody standing against evolution," Chouhoud said. "That, I'm proud of.'

:-)

[Diamond]

Reporter to self: how can I get in a last-word slur against ID without actually stating it directly myself? Ooooh, I know. Guilt by irrelevant association. Find a MUSLIM (read; terrorist, jihadist, etc) on campus to say something critical of evolution.

Cordially,

[USConstitutionBuff]

Birds of a feather flock together.

[blowfish]

"in good company" ping.

[Oztrich Boy]

Actually that's guilt by voluntary association. The IDjits are doing it to themselves.

For the Kansas hearigs they brought over a Turkist Islamist to suupport them.

For the Dover hearings they brought over a Brit postmodernist.

Along the way they have argued for relativism anf affirmative action for "Intelligent Design"

It does seem the ID is a progressive cause.

[Coyoteman]

===> Placemarker <===

[betty boop]

"Frankly, just from a humanities point of view, it's considered good to challenge the conventional wisdom. It's inherently respectable."

Indeed. If we don't question what we believe we know, then how do we learn anything new? I honestly don't understand the rationale for the science faculty's behavior at Lehigh. They act as if Behe were promoting child molestation or wife beating....

Thanks for the post, Diamond!

[Diamond]

Birds of a feather flock together.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander:

Joseph Rosenbloom is a contributing editor at The American Prospect.

"The American Prospect was founded in 1990 as an authoritative magazine of liberal ideas, committed to a just society, an enriched democracy, and effective ..."
blah, blah, blah.

One of the lessons of Vietnam was that a sharply divided nation should never take on armed conflict. That's why the framers gave Congress, not the president, power to declare war. Conservatives are fond of invoking the wisdom of the "original intent" of the framers of the Constitution. This is one case where we have a pretty clear idea of both what that original intent was and what it requires of the executive branch today. Bush may claim to be a constitutional originalist -- but evidently, when war is at stake, he is a selective one.

The July 2004 edition of The American Prospect features a special section on capital punishment with articles by some of the nation's most respected experts on the topic. "Reasonable Doubts: A Special Report on the Death Penalty" examines the growing movement to reform or abolish capital punishment in America. Among the topics examined are public opinion, innocence, race, and the death penalty for juveniles. The series also provides a closer look at the death penalty in states such as Illinois and Texas, and offers an overview of the Supreme Court's recent decisions on the death penalty. The authors included are: Anthony Amsterdam, Hugo Bedau, Christina Swarns, Tom Lowenstein, Sasha Abramsky, Jean Templeton, Joseph Rosenbloom, and Connie de la Vega.

People who use irrelevancies about people's political and religious beliefs as defeaters on other issues make themselves fair game to receive the same.

Cordially,

[USConstitutionBuff]

Just as Behe has every right to put forth his philosophical posturings as if it were Science, the Science faculty at his University have every right to disavow any perception that they have bought into this philosophy gussied up as if it were a Scientific theory while it doesn't have a unified definition, a falsifiable hypothesis, any observed phenomena that can be measured, or having any predictive power.

[blowfish]

Absolutely! Lets get Phrenology and Astrology back in there as well. Are they afraid of the challenge to their pet theories?

[Diamond]

They act as if Behe were promoting child molestation or wife beating....

A preview of this thread, perhaps?:^)

Cordially,

[Sloth]

that put him squarely on the map in favor of an anti-evolution concept known as intelligent design

A lie. ID is not anti-evolution.

[DoctorMichael]

"........Among the 40 to 45 members of the Muslim Student Association, intelligent-design "hasn't been a topic of great debate," said Youssef Chouhoud, the group's president and a political science student. As a Muslim, "I'm glad to have somebody standing against evolution," Chouhoud said. "That, I'm proud of.' ......."

Muslims and ID/Creationists are not the same.

However, there is a confluence here between the interests and goals of Muslims and ID/Creationists: They both share the same Fear and Loathing of Western Society and its Institutions and fervently wish to destroy it. First though, they must destroy those in the Conservative Movement and discredit Conservative websites such as FreeRepublic by posting their crap here.

[Right Wing Professor]

As a Muslim, "I'm glad to have somebody standing against evolution," Chouhoud said. "That, I'm proud of.'

Nice lot of friends you have.

[Right Wing Professor]

Reporter to self: how can I get in a last-word slur against ID without actually stating it directly myself? Ooooh, I know. Guilt by irrelevant association. Find a MUSLIM (read; terrorist, jihadist, etc) on campus to say something critical of evolution.

Given the open cooperation between Islamists and creationists, both of the straight-up and stealth (ID) variety, it's hardly irrelevant.

[Diamond]

For the Kansas hearigs they brought over a Turkist Islamist to suupport them.
For the Dover hearings they brought over a Brit postmodernist.
Along the way they have argued for relativism anf affirmative action for "Intelligent Design"
It does seem the ID is a progressive cause.

Wait a minute. I thought that ID'rs were all Wild-Eyed^TM Fundamentalist Christian, Creationist, Bible-thumping ignoramuses. Which is it?

Cordially,

[wallcrawlr]

Here, I think you dropped this:

[Right Wing Professor]

Uh, Diamond, you were the one who posted the Rosenbloom article. So it appears you're trying to smear yourself with guilt by association!