Posted on 10/31/2005 7:29:10 PM PST by calcowgirl
Mighty obliged.
The presence of MoveOn.Org is reason enough to get everyone off the couch and into the polls.
They are a dreadful left wing activist/terror outfit bent on destroying our country in aiding and abetting world wide terrorism.
Thank you for the correction.
You got it!
Reform debate sounds like same old political yada yada
I tried to go out to your link to the MoveOn.org story but got wrapped around the axel with a subscription to the SJ Mercury. That article really be more available for anyone interested in stopping rad/activist terror groups like them.
Your opposition in this thread suddenly seems ominous and frighteningly threatening. These kind of tactics can easily backfire on them.
But it does not inform voters adequately as to how to vote.
MoveOn.org has thrown peanuts ($75,000) at this which makes it appear as if they oppose Prop 77, while other dems have poured millions into passing it. One of the major voices fighting those same terrorist/leftist-activists is conservative David Horowitz. Perhaps you might want to read what he thinks of Proposition 77. It comes down to this: If it passes, Republicans are destined to lose their majority in the House.
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Big Mistake
Now it's my fault that the Mercury requires registration?
Here is the excerpt at the FR thread:
Liberal groups try to link special election to broader GOP agenda
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513072/posts
AND I found a link for the full article for you, where you don't have to register:
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/13046808.htm
You have misunderstood me. It was the newspaper's barrier,not you that I was frustrated with.
Thanks for the new link.
As marginal as I may appear to be, I support your view point.
No problem, sorry for the misunderstanding. :)
And more on why the liberals and leftists hate Arnold:
Schwarzenegger vetoes major anti-family legislation (232 vetoes, 25% of bills)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513119/posts
I really detest the Gov on the worst,most uninformed basis. Your factual accounts have a major impact on my perceptions about all of this.
If what you say is true, why has his campaign not reached us apathetic potential constituents,in your opinion? Who is "running" his show and not connecting with the voters?
Your advocacy is admirable. Keep your good work up.
Thanks for your honest post.
Arnold is walking a tightrope -- if he swings too far to the right, he loses the middle and the independents and Dems he needs to vote for his agenda, because of the demography of CA: overwhelmingly leftist.
So you have to watch the whole picture, not examine the trees so much, you miss the forest. He has to throw crumbs to the leftists, he has to choose his fights carefully.
He reformed the disability, which was crippling CA, he resisted valiantly the very strong efforts of the Dems, to push him to raise taxes, and now he is addressing the spending part, the most important of which is the defang Prop. 98, which holds the entire budget hostage. And who do you think benefits from Prop. 75, it surely not the Dems, who just loved all that union money coming their way, which now will be denied to them.
Arnold is a "stealth" fiscal conservative. His idol is Milton Freedman, and he read his books, when he was young. Arnold is not dummy, just as Reagan wasn't.
Arnold worked his way up and he is totally sincere that he wants to give something back. We got so used to lying politicians, that sometimes we can't tell the difference, when someone actually is sincere.
Dan Griswold of Cato was on the John & Ken Show recently, and if you think he has any credibility read the link.
Welch is also quite a bit weak on the issue; you can see a discussion about Antonio Villaraigosa here. Obviously, my attempts to point out that Mexico providing propaganda to "immigrants" in U.S. schools was a bad thing fell on closed ears. For more on what Welch wilfully ignores, see this.
In brief, Reason Magazine is on the other side from those who support U.S. borders and sovereignty.
And, Reason has a blog and they promote their articles there. In fact, there's an entry at their blog for the current article: here.
Note that that last link has a nofollow tag, for the reasons described here.
Six posts! It only took six posts to come up with Ferdinand the RINO's standard line! Do you know that Reagan managed to get his ambitious agenda passed with Democrat controlled Congress (both the House and Senate in 1981)? If Ahhnode was strong enough to unseat a sitting Governor in a coup d'etat election, why can't he follow through on his mandate? Another weak R <-- (Rovee)
Please tell me you're exaggerating...?!
The Cannibals are so restless...
Sorry, I can't do that. Davis raised general fund spending an average of 6% per year. Arnold bumped it 6.5% his first year and 11% the second. Arnold also raised total debt by over 50% with Prop 58, endorsing the stem cell debacle, and his current deficit which he plans to cover with bond debt hidden in Prop 76.
That about sums it up.
I can't believe you would highlight the articles that show McClintock to support 76. As if we would vote for it on his say so. We keep telling you that are vocal protests against Arnold's crap has nothing to do with our support of McClintock. You refuse to listen.
But it seems like you are voting AGAINST Prop. 76, on the say-so of Howard Dean, Moveon.org, Angelides, Villaraigosa, the Dem party recommendations, Feinstein, Boxer, the Unions.
Well, when the choice is voting with the above, or voting with the Republican party, McClintock, Ray Haynes, the Howard Jarvis taxpayer association, the Club for Growth, I personally vote with the latter.
You can vote with Moveon.org, it's a free country, but don't tell us you are a conservative, unless you are prepared to explain to us, that Howard Dean and Moveon.org are conservatives. I can hardly wait.
You are making accusations you know are not true. Stop now. No more. You have been told again and again why we are voting against this prop. Your personal attacks are not welcome any more.
"Your personal attacks are not welcome any more."
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You mean they were welcome before? ;)
I don't make personal attacks, pointing out that you advocating the same position as the likes of Moveon.org is FACT. You can dress it up with all the good intentions and good sounding rationale, but the bottom line is that you are voting against the conservative position, WITH the leftist Democrats. You can't spin your wait out of it, and that's what frustrates you.
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