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Nomination Likely to Please G.O.P., but Not Some Democrats
NY Times ^ | October 31, 2005 | CHRISTINE HAUSER and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 10/31/2005 8:15:27 AM PST by neverdem

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To: Señor Zorro

Thanks for your kind reply, but it appears that you have a "glass half empty" attitude about the deal whereas I have a "glass half full" attitude. What I do know for sure is that Brown, Owen, and Prior were confirmed without a fuss, and Frist can still go nuclear anytime he wants, only now with a more reliable vote-count thanks to the deal. So help me out here - - what did the rats get out of this again?


41 posted on 10/31/2005 10:06:22 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks so much for this perceptive and helpful interpretation.


42 posted on 10/31/2005 10:12:07 AM PST by karnage (Sox Win It All!)
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To: karnage; Señor Zorro
Thanks for your kind post.
I would urge you to review the following older thread for more information. Naturally, the Republicans can't gloat about trapping the rats, but they did almost let the cat out of the bag last June. Check it out:

Frist blows Graham's and DeWine's cover on judicial nominations deal

Regards,
LH

43 posted on 10/31/2005 10:39:19 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem

"Nomination Likely to Please G.O.P., but Not Some Democrats"

I don't want it to please any Demonrats, not one! I want our collective enemy to be universally suicidal over this nomination


44 posted on 10/31/2005 1:42:28 PM PST by wally-balls
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To: neverdem
Title says it all
45 posted on 10/31/2005 4:20:24 PM PST by grb
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To: neverdem

Happy Scalitoween! Hear we picked up De Wine and Graham for the Constitutional Option today?


46 posted on 10/31/2005 4:21:24 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Merry Alitomas!)
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To: neverdem
I have been itching to post my theories on whats been going on.

1. President Bush got his #1 man in, but was promised trouble on anyone else.

2. Trying to be a nice guy, he threw the Dems a bone with the Miers nomination.

You see, she could have easily been approved had the democrats been willing to negotiate and avoid a huge partisan debate.

While there were not major portions of the republicans on board for Miers, there theoretically could have been enough votes (had the democrats tried to get what they say they wanted--IE an middle of the road nominee)

BUT, the democrats decided to play @__hole so hence we now have the current nominee.

Basically President Bush gave them a 'peace offering' in Miers but they slapped it down, despite what they say they want.

Thus President Bush says, "OK, lets then try it another way...."

In any case I think this guy will be a better merely because all the previous gridlock needs to stop.

47 posted on 10/31/2005 4:28:48 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: gogeo; Lancey Howard
gogeo: The agreement allows the Repubs to define extraordinary circumstances for themselves. It doesn't allow RATs to define it for everyone.

The text doesn't define it for anyone, true. Don't be so naive, though. We all know that, to an unfortunately high percentage of Americans, the liberal media will define "extraordinary circumstances."

Thanks for your kind reply, but it appears that you have a "glass half empty" attitude about the deal whereas I have a "glass half full" attitude.

I do not have a glass-half-empty, glass-half-full, glass submerged in water, glass struck by lightning or glass anything else point of view. I have simply analyzed the situation and given my predictions. Now I will grant that having Brown, Owen, and Prior confirmed (wasn't it too late to say "without any fuss"?) was nice. However, that does not have anything to do with the problems that could arise.

So help me out here - - what did the rats get out of this again?

The Democrats got an "agreement" from the Republicans that they can twist into a promise not to use the "Constitutional Option." Furthermore, they have not restricted themselves with the "extraordiinary circumstances" clause as any filibuster at all implies "extraordinary circumstances."

I guess I fail to see how the "rats were trapped."

48 posted on 10/31/2005 8:15:56 PM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: karnage; Señor Zorro
Check this out:

DeWine Says He'll Back Ban On Filibusters In US Senate

Of course he will - - this was the genius of the "Gang of 14" deal. Seven Republicans, including DeWine, promised not to "go nuclear" in exchange for seven Democrats' promise not to filibuster. If some or all of those seven Democrats break their promise and support a filibuster (which would have to happen in order for a filibuster to succeed) then the seven Republicans have all the cover they need to get righteous and vote to "go nuclear". They will clearly be left no choice if the Democrats break their promise.

49 posted on 11/01/2005 1:05:13 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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