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Scooter And Sandy (Joseph Farah Raps Perjury Double Standard Alert)
World Net Daily.com ^ | October 31, 2005 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 10/30/2005 10:32:30 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: conservative in nyc
The McDougalls went to jail for their role in Whitewater.

Jim died in jail but he was not a Clinton official, was he? Susan spent time in jail only because she refused to testify. I don't know that she was actually convicted.

There were so many indictments in the Clinton years and this is what number in Bush's time in office? How many of those Clintonistas actually were found guilty? Was it because D.C. is 112% Democrat (counting the grave markers and sewer rats)?

The Bush team's responsiveness is absolutely glacial and their techniques are positively Precambrian when it comes to getting their message out. It's pathetic. Clinton's administration was truly brilliant at bull----, phenomenally media savvy. We BADLY need new blood in the White House or these next few years will be a death of a thousand cuts. Except when Bush pulls another Miers out of his boot and severes a limb.

21 posted on 10/31/2005 12:35:07 AM PST by newzjunkey (CA: YES on Prop 73-77! Unions outspending Arnold 3:1, HELP: http://www.joinarnold.com)
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To: nathanbedford
The entire rationale fueling the media frenzy over the outing of Valerie Plane came from the left' s allegations that the administration {Acting in furtherence of a CONSPIRACY] willfully damaged national security to cover lies which wrongly justified our going to war. Now that fuel is completely out of the tank. No one has been indicted for jeopardizing national security in any way.

Maybe so, and I hope you're right, but the media frenzy over Libby is being driven by a belief that his indictment is only the first shoe to drop, so to say. They are salivating over the prospect of a kind of "drip drip" phenomenon that will occur (or that they can spin into appearing to occur) as other "lies" are revealed during the run-up to Libby's trial. In other words, they are thrilled by the theory that "if you see one cockroach, there must be thousands that you don't see."

IMHO this idea will fall apart if no more cockroaches are found. The model for this would be the unfortunate Ray Donovan of the Reagan administration. Mr. Donovan was indicted for "corruption" and eventually acquitted. I do not recall the "drip, drip" phenomenon in connection with Mr. Donovan's case. There was no there there, and for that reason it was no newsworthy, and the press left it alone. If there is no juiciness under the bun in the Libby case, the press will lose interest.

(steely)

22 posted on 10/31/2005 1:31:00 AM PST by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: PositiveCogins
Will we ever find out who the leak was? No.

Plame was a bureaucrat. She was not covert. Therefore, it can't reasonably be considered a "leak" to mention she worked for the CIA when it was already common knowledge.

23 posted on 10/31/2005 2:21:36 AM PST by alnick
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To: Jeff Chandler

Bush & Co. need to think: Media = Democrats. They are one and the same. When they talk to the media, they might as well pretend they are talking to the DNC. Maybe that little exercise would have prevented all this.


24 posted on 10/31/2005 2:42:38 AM PST by Alissa
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To: goldstategop




"Has any one noticed the double standard between the perjury cases of Lewis "Scooter" Libby and Bill Clinton? As Joseph points out, we're told lying to reporters is a far more serious crime than lying to a judge and jury about one's sexual conduct. You gotta laugh at this. Clinton skated for obstructing justice and Libby faces 30 years in prison for lying to reporters. Doesn't this seem excessive to you? You betcha! And don't forget our old friend Sandy Berger, who walked away with a slap on the wrist for stealing official documents from the National Archives. Now, I'm for every one following the same rules. But Patrick Fitzgerald just lied to the public about equal treatment under the law."

I am a small woman but I do big jobs for myself rather than to hire someone to do them..Last week I was painting the walls in my house while listening to all of this through the television and radio. I thought to myself, "In primitive and corrupt nations, leaders are physically murdered by their opponents. This Libby situation seems to equal political assassination of high level people." Also, in listening to the discussions on this, it would seem that Mr. Wilson was the one who really "outed" his wife. And, if true, does a conspiracy not exist here? To criminalize a public servant through a charge of lying to reporters would truly be a laughing matter in a real civilized nation. I am not so sure that America is civilized anymore. I have scary thoughts such as, "Will this kind of thing get so ridiculous that America will experience some kind of civil war?" When political enemies want to win at any cost, it seems to me that a terrible turning point has been reached. Also, when logic is twisted and distorted to fit what the aggressors want the outcome to be, are we not in mortal danger from some evil greater than Al Queda? The last thing I am thinking is that a "Left Wing" conspiracy does exist, which is backed by lots of money, organization and viciousness and this one is not a myth. I feel sorry for Mr. Libby. How unfortunate to have become educated and to have applied oneself to contributing something to one's country and to one's fellow man and to have been put into the cross hairs of the weapons of hatred this large. We have gone below the bottom of legal decadence when lying to reporters has become a crime. Also, did Sandy Berger not hide those documents in his socks?


25 posted on 10/31/2005 2:42:57 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: goldstategop

I listened to Mr. Fitzgerald's remarks on Friday through the radio and I thought he sounded like a very angry man who was just about to explode. I wondered why someone would sound that angry if he was certain of the charges he had just made against another human being.


26 posted on 10/31/2005 2:55:33 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: nathanbedford

"Middle America will scratch its head when it becomes aware that this entire flap has been reduced to alleged perjury about the source of an innocent fact. Davis sees that now, so he is attempting to show his fellow Democrats a path to the higher ground before middle American gets really angry that there was so much ado about nothing and begins to resent those who manufactured this flap."

In the past, I have become very frustrated with Lanny and his liberal views, but in his heart, I think he is a good man who loves his country. I do think when this gets the attention of more Americans, they will be angry and they will react.


27 posted on 10/31/2005 3:00:34 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: goldstategop

Good point on the Libby/Berger "double standard"---but do you actually expect the Democrats and the news media to demonstrate CONSISTENCY in their "moral/news" judgement???


28 posted on 10/31/2005 3:27:31 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: goldstategop

I'm still waiting for the indictments for appropriating the FBI files.


29 posted on 10/31/2005 5:56:40 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: jazzlite
I listened to Mr. Fitzgerald's remarks on Friday through the radio and I thought he sounded like a very angry man who was just about to explode. I wondered why someone would sound that angry if he was certain of the charges he had just made against another human being.

Farah's just pissed that he and Joe Wilson didn't get to see their dream of Karl Rove being frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs come to fruition on Friday.

But he'll get over it quickly enough - I'm sure he's already working on the column where he raves that Judge Sam Alito is an even worse SCOTUS nominee than Harriet Miers AND John Roberts put together.

30 posted on 10/31/2005 9:00:40 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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