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Religious beliefs trump hurricane relief (Baptists Veto Beer Company's Water)
http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=4747&z=3&p= ^ | 10/29/2005

Posted on 10/30/2005 9:10:08 PM PST by Between the Lines

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To: The Red Zone

You will find posters on FR who make that very argument.


101 posted on 10/31/2005 9:24:55 AM PST by kms61
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To: oyez

I don't want to rip Baptists, because most people I know are Baptists. But Baptists are almost as likely as Catholics to be drinkers, they just don't do it or talk about it at church. Shoot, most Baptist weddings I've been to have two receptions. The first one is a short little boring one at the church, and then the second one is at the country club or somewhere where there will be plenty of booze and dancing. There always seems to be a lot more people at the second reception.


102 posted on 10/31/2005 9:25:38 AM PST by TKDietz
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To: Skooz

See my post 93 in this thread.


103 posted on 10/31/2005 9:26:09 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: steve-b
I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink.

If you are going to pretend to preach the Bible, at least get the context right. You are pretending that the Baptists didn't know that there was other water available. You are also pretending that the Baptist did not know there were others available who could pass out the water.

That scripture can be twisted anyway you want for the immediate political point you are trying to make.

You could even make that verse say that if a man was thirsty and only one of his two friends gave him water one day, because one friend was all it took to do the job, the other man was disobeying that verse. You would then be guilty of a false accusation.

The people were not denied water.

BTW, by ignoring the contextual details of that verse you end up with any meaning you want. In fact, your open rendering of that verse would mean that any living person on this planet that day who did not give those thirsty people water that day are in violation of that verse.

Your exposition is nonsense and you ignored the context in order to make a cheap political point.

104 posted on 10/31/2005 9:28:25 AM PST by OriginalIntent (Liberals always lie about everything.---- The ACLU needs to be investigated and exposed.)
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To: Skooz
No story here, except some kooks trying to trash Baptists (who are, by the way, working hard helping those effected by the hurricane).

I found it surprising how many in this thread were blinded to the media bias in this story.

105 posted on 10/31/2005 10:01:50 AM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Gumlegs

Post 93 does not answer my question.

What evidence do you have that anyone -- one single person -- went to the Baptists for water but was turned away?


106 posted on 10/31/2005 10:02:07 AM PST by Skooz (If you think Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: Between the Lines

They were probably afraid tha the Coors water was secretly Coors Beer.

Anybody could confuse the two.

Coor's is the nadir of bottled brew.


107 posted on 10/31/2005 10:03:18 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Skooz

Excellent job missing the point.


108 posted on 10/31/2005 10:09:51 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Excellent job evading the question.

You posted this:

"The "good work" in question being their determination to keep water away from thirsty people because the SBC doesn't approve of who donated the water."

I asked you actually name ONE THIRSTY PERSON denied water by the Baptists. You obviously cannot.

Therefore, your statement is utter BS.


109 posted on 10/31/2005 10:13:23 AM PST by Skooz (If you think Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: Skooz; Gumlegs
What evidence do you have that anyone -- one single person -- went to the Baptists for water but was turned away?

Bout the same evidence there is that they were handing out water from some Baptist approved source?

110 posted on 10/31/2005 10:14:24 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: petitfour
What would Jesus do? Give out clean drinking water? Or set it aside because the water was donated by a sinner?

The "What would Jesus do" question is one of the dumbest things going around today. It presumes that we can do what Jesus is able to do or that Jesus would limit himself to what we can do.

As seen in the story of the loaves and fishes, Jesus has his own way of dealing with distribution problems and did not rely on the distribution systems of man.

111 posted on 10/31/2005 10:18:02 AM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Between the Lines

You're right. When the party ran out of wine, Jesus gave them more.


112 posted on 10/31/2005 10:20:01 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Oztrich Boy

Well, seeing as the Southern Baptist Convention has prepared over 9 million meals for hurricane victims since Katrina hit, it is safe to assume a few bottles of water were distributed with those meals.


113 posted on 10/31/2005 10:20:14 AM PST by Skooz (If you think Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: Skooz
What evidence do you have that anyone -- one single person -- went to the Baptists for water but was turned away?

If anyone went without water because of this, it would not be a local story on channel 2 but instead a national story .

114 posted on 10/31/2005 10:22:16 AM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Skooz

Arguing from the general to the specifc? Not safe


115 posted on 10/31/2005 10:23:57 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Between the Lines

And yet no one died of thirst - if they had, we would have heard.


116 posted on 10/31/2005 10:25:27 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: petitfour
You're right. When the party ran out of wine, Jesus gave them more.

And he didn't have to rely on Busch. We on the other hand cannot do what Jesus can, so it is silly to ask ourselves to do what Jesus would do.

A better question would be: What would Jesus have me to do?

117 posted on 10/31/2005 10:26:08 AM PST by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Not at all.

The question remains unanswered:

Do you know of anyone denied water by the Baptists?

No. You don't.

And post 110 was a pathetic attempt at changing the subject to avoid the truthful answer.


118 posted on 10/31/2005 10:26:44 AM PST by Skooz (If you think Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: Between the Lines
If it is the same printing on the cans as back in 93 from the Flood, all it is is a blank white can, with the words Drinking Water and the AB Eagle logo.

BTW did Coors, Coca~cola, Pepsi or any other beverage company can/bottle water to donate?

They should look at it this way, they were busy canning water and not beer.

119 posted on 10/31/2005 10:28:33 AM PST by CARDINALRULES (Tough times never last -Tough people do. DK57)
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To: Between the Lines

Your question is better. I think Jesus would have me hand out the water.

This story reminds me of my father, who was Southern Baptist. He stopped at the liquor store and bought two beers, one for him and one for my mother. He then told me, "Don't tell anybody . . ." This would have been in the mid-1970s. I still think it is funny.


120 posted on 10/31/2005 10:36:34 AM PST by petitfour
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